Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.212]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-86ae4d46ce9810b; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:00:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 19B6A380000D6; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PjvDq-0005QB-8o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:59:18 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PjvDp-0005Q2-QG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:59:17 +0000 Received: from relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net ([217.69.40.75] helo=relay03.mail.uk1.eechost.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PjvDn-0003Oh-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:59:17 +0000 Received: from [88.151.27.235] (helo=[192.168.1.111]) by relay03.mail.uk1.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjvDW-0008LF-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:58:58 +0000 Message-ID: <4D46CE2C.8030206@o2.ie> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:58:52 +0000 From: Tony User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <85896.7619.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000d01cbc14c$ea593060$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <000d01cbc14c$ea593060$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Auth-Info: 3810@permanet.ie (plain) X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d44d46ce962fa5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 31/01/2011 13:43, mal hamilton wrote: > =A3140 per licence to BBC and a criminal offence if it is not paid if yo= u have > a TV > G3KEV > Not so Mal, it is only a criminal offence if you watch "live" TV. It's no longer an offence to have a TV set to play games or watch BBC=20 iplayer. It still is here in Ireland though. 73, Tony, EI8JK. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave > > > John, Pete, > > I'll keep it brief since we are getting further off-topic. > I have two thoughts on the end of the BBC World Service on Shortwave: > > 1) The reliance on the Internet for program distribution is worrisome. > One only need look at Egypt where the Internet is shut down, or China > where it is censored. > > 2) The BBC World Service gives the U.K. considerable stature in the > World, in other words the U.K. is a small country with a big voice and > international role. Elimination of the World Service will make the > U.K. just another small, non-descript country in the EU. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:20 AM, M0FMT wrote: >> Hi Warren >> >> My immediate response is that if you like it that much why not pay Engl= ish >> tax to help maintain it. >> >> However the BBC world service, the Government mouth-piece, is currently >> funded by direct taxation which is probable more equitable than the new > plan >> which is to fund it out of the compulsory so called Licence Fee, collec= ted >> under threat of imprisonment, which is really a tax on a tax i.e. paid= out >> of taxed income. >> >> This is the dark side of English culture. >> >> 73 es GL petefmt >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Warren Ziegler >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 5:15:48 >> Subject: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave >> >> Sad day... >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-respo= nse >> Guess I'll have to rely on the 198 longwave transmissions. >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >> > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > >