Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.142]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC081-86044d3efd08389; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:40:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E4A87380000BB; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Phluu-0001NK-MH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:38:52 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Phluu-0001NB-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:38:52 +0000 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Phlut-0005PZ-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:38:52 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.24] (helo=14.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1Phlus-0003oN-0H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:38:50 +0100 Received: from blfd-4d083c2d.pool.mediaways.net ([77.8.60.45]:2010 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by 14.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1Phlur-0001Ol-NL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:38:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4D3EFC97.6050200@freenet.de> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:38:47 +0100 From: wolf_dl4yhf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1295896545.1454.24.camel@gerhard-desktop> <1295930019.1444.4.camel@gerhard-desktop> In-Reply-To: <1295930019.1444.4.camel@gerhard-desktop> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: OE5ODL_OE3GHB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408e4d3efd0640fd X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Gerhard, Ossi, and group, This info just arrived here from the yahoo VLF group, not sure if it was already forwarded to the LF group. 73, Wolf DL4YHF . ----- VLF transmit activity from Austria Date: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:48 pm ((PST)) OE3GHB's signal is a moving target! The frequency drifts quite a lot but yesterday (24th) for a couple of hours the drift was fairly linear and I could apply a suitable de-chirp. Integrating 12:00 to 14:00 in 138uHz resolution with a chirp rate of -1.05uHz/sec produces a peak of about 0.18fT crossing 8969.9676 Hz at 12:00, http://abelian.org/vlf/110124a.gif It's a pretty marginal sort of peak, but the frequency coincides with Gerhard's local spectrogram at 12:00 and is not present before the transmission. The required de-chirp was first estimated by counting pixels on Gerhard's spectrogram, then polished by running several spectra with a range of nearby values. Actually the chirp rate giving the highest peak was the original rate estimated. Without the de-chirp, his signal is spread across some 50 spectrum bins and is almost completely lost in the noise. There's a spurious signal here at 8969.95683 Hz, visible without the de-chirp, http://abelian.org/vlf/110124b.gif Gerhard's signal is just visible as the broad hump between -0.03 and -0.04Hz. The bin amplitudes there are not individually significant against the prevailing noise, but 36 adjacent raised bins does indicate the presence of something and if the excess power was concentrated into a single bin the amplitude would be between 0.3 and 0.6fT. I guess the drift rate is just not linear enough to fully concentrate the signal. The range to JN88hl is 1422.5 km, so a little further than Ossi. I think Gerhard must be putting out quite a nice signal but it is lost because of the frequency drift. -- Paul Nicholson --