Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.137]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-85f54d37363a2a4; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:06:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EA67938000087; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PfdLm-0003P0-K1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:05:46 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PfdLm-0003Or-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:05:46 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PfdLl-0006Ms-Ah for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:05:46 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0JJ5iRc005633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:05:44 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0JJ5ing031955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:05:44 +0100 Received: from [147.142.9.36] (vpn509-036.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.9.36]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0JJ5fkL007384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:05:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4D37360F.6020806@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:05:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <797ad.4f2d887c.3a671a48@aol.com> <8CD85F794C82497-10B0-AC49@webmail-m001.sysops.aol.com> <4D36FB23.6070607@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p0JJ5iRc005633 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: OE5ODL VLF ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40894d3736382f2e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Jacek, Well, i am looking on his VLF grabber at http://www.langwelle.at/ If i=20 remember correctly it is in about 10 km distance to him, so in the far=20 field and mostly affected by the groundwave (so less affected by=20 propagation effects). So his signal/ERP could be expressed by the color=20 scale visible there. Today it looks as if he hasn't used the balloon=20 antenna section. If that distance to F4DTL was done was with the fxed antenna...=20 Impressing! But the QRN is as low as never observed since i am=20 monitoring VLF. In average i estimate 20 dB less than in summer. And the= =20 times of low QRN is currently about 10 hours and 2...3 hours in summer! :-= ) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 19.01.2011 19:46, schrieb Jacek Lipkowski: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: > >> Yes, just see the grabbers! But the signal seems weak today. Probably= =20 >> there is wind and no chance for the balloon antenna... I can see him=20 >> in my 6000 window but just about 10 dB weaker than on monday... > > or propagation effects. > > look at the waterfall for the last 3 days. 3 days ago the noise level=20 > was very strong, and OE5ODL was strong too. today the noise is weak,=20 > and Oswald's signal is very weak too. > > of course we don't know if the output current and antenna is the same=20 > every day > > jacek >