Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.11]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD053-865b4d372fd31a8; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:39:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-di07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 66DFE38000089; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PfcvF-0002aN-DG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:38:21 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PfcvE-0002aE-SN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:38:20 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PfcvD-0005wJ-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:38:20 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0JIcHMS018437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:38:18 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0JIcH9A022317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:38:17 +0100 Received: from [147.142.9.36] (vpn509-036.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.9.36]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0JIcE4A005405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:38:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4D372F9F.3030807@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:38:23 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: oe5odl References: <8CD8614F15B3B8C-11DC-A442@webmail-d069.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD8614F15B3B8C-11DC-A442@webmail-d069.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: OE5ODL VLF received in France Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000700090101080706080903" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d400b4d372fd20223 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------000700090101080706080903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p0JIcHMS018437 Hi Nicolas, The distance is 797km, http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN18IP&from=3Dj= n68rb This is a VERY impressing and remarkable RX result! His signal seemed to= =20 be rather low today, compared to monday but you've got an excellent=20 reception in 4.5 mHz. Congrats to you and of course Ossi! The first OE-F= =20 contact on VLF it seems :-) Your loop design becomes more and more interesting for me! Would be=20 interesting to compare it to an active E field antenna at the same locatio= n. What do you estimate is the SNR loss if you would choose the quietest=20 location where the loop can be fixed arranged? This shows that VLF reception in the range above 500 km and even QSOs=20 may be done by fixed antennas! A good VLF day! 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 19.01.2011 18:25, schrieb f4dtl@aol.com: > Hello Dreamers, Ossi attached my screen capture of your VLF=20 > transmission this afternoon. > In portable for a noise-free environment, locator JN18IP. > Best regards F4DTL/P > > -----E-mail d'origine----- > De : o.ossy > A : f4dtl > Envoy=C3=A9 le : Mercredi, 19 Janvier 2011 15:28 > Sujet : Re: LF: OE5ODL VLF ? > > hallo niclas > tnx fer your report , > so in this time i transmiting only with the marconi > 220 ma smal signal fore testing the conds , > weather here very poor stormy and snowfall , > wet wx conds not good fore high voltage on the anttena, > and no ballon by strong wind , > so by the next activity i gife a info on the reflector, > you can see the smal signal on my grabber here 10 km from my station, pe= aking > only to -80 db , > normaly by ballon 100m high its on -70 db , > http://www.langwelle.at/, > > 73 oe5odl > > > f4dtl@aol.com wrote: > > > > OE5ODL VLF is on air this afternoon ? > > > > F4DTL/P JN18IP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----E-mail d'origine----- > > De : F4DTL> > > A : rsgb_lf_group> > > Envoy=C3=83=C2=A9 le : Mardi, 18 Janvier 2011 17:32 > > Sujet : Re: VLF: 8970.02 Hz + 10th > > > > > > Hello Dreamers, maybe the ODL's VLF transmission but I did not have > > enough time because it was during my lunch raises labor. Reception in > > QRSS600. > > > > OE5ODL could you schedule one transmission this week-end with email= via > > RSGB to informe all. > > > > F4DTL Nicolas @JN18FP > > > > RX : SL config > > Ant: Miniwhip VLF modified > > > > > > > > > > --------------000700090101080706080903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p0JIcHMS018437 Hi Nicolas,

The distance is 797km, http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN18IP&= amp;from=3Djn68rb

This is a VERY impressing and remarkable RX result! His signal seemed to be rather low today, compared to monday but you've got an excellent reception in 4.5 mHz. Congrats to you and of course Ossi! The first OE-F contact on VLF it seems :-)

Your loop design becomes more and more interesting for me! Would be interesting to compare it to an active E field antenna at the same location.
What do you estimate is the SNR loss if you would choose the quietest location where the loop can be fixed arranged?

This shows that VLF reception in the range above 500 km and even QSOs may be done by fixed antennas! A good VLF day!

73, Stefan/DK7FC





Am 19.01.2011 18:25, schrieb f4dtl@aol.com:
Hello Dreamers, Ossi attached my screen capture of your VLF transmission this afternoon.
In portable for a noise-free environment, locator JN18IP.
=C2=A0
Best regards F4DTL/P

-----E-mail d'origine-----
De : o.ossy <o.ossy@inext.at>
A : f4dtl <f4dtl@aol.com>
Envoy=C3=A9 le : Mercredi, 19 Janvier 2011 15:28
Sujet : Re: LF: OE5ODL VLF ?

hallo niclas
tnx fer your report ,
so in this time i transmiting only with the marconi
220 ma smal signal fore  testing the conds ,
weather here very poor stormy and snowfall ,
wet wx conds not good fore high voltage on the anttena,
and no ballon by strong wind ,
so by the next activity i gife a info on the reflector,
you can see the smal signal on my grabber here 10 km from my station, peak=
ing=20
only to -80 db ,
normaly by ballon 100m high its on -70 db ,
http://www.langwelle.at/,

73 oe5odl


f4dtl@aol.com wrote:
>
> OE5ODL VLF is on air this afternoon ?
>
> F4DTL/P JN18IP
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----E-mail d'origine-----
> De : F4DTL <F4DTL@aol.com>
> A : rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Envoy=C3=83=C2=A9 le : Mardi, 18 Janvier 2011 17:32
> Sujet : Re: VLF: 8970.02 Hz + 10th
>
>
> Hello Dreamers, maybe the ODL's VLF transmission but I did not have
> enough time because it was during my lunch raises labor. Reception in
> QRSS600.
>
> OE5ODL could you schedule one transmission this week-end with email=
 via=20
> RSGB to informe all.
>
> F4DTL Nicolas  @JN18FP
>
> RX : SL config
> Ant: Miniwhip VLF modified
>
>
>
>
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