Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.10]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB102-86244d370079220; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:17:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 81116380000FF; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PfZlh-0000HY-HQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:16:17 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PfZlh-0000HP-5a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:16:17 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PfZlg-0003zD-GW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:16:17 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0JFGFUN021782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:16:15 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p0JFGFis013834 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:16:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4D36FF68.2060009@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:12:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: LF: Pic or Atmel? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600a4d3700772aa3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear group, especially Andy/G4JNT, Maybe a little out of topic but very useful for LF/VLF devices: Programming microcontrollers. Before some years i worked with some PIC controllers, assembler. But in the German ham radio newspaper you rather find circuit examples programmed on an Atmel device. Now i want to buy some software and programming devices for microcontrollers and asking myselfe what i should choose, Pic or Atmel. Maybe its a question like Windows or Linux? ;-) My question would be what is the difference and the advantages/disadvantages. Is there a preferred device for practical purposes? Examples for what i want to do with a Pic or Atmel: -Programming a DDS VFO -A/D / D/A conversion of LF/VLF signals - Programming a beacon TX for 8970 Hz, directly driving a psuh-pull FET stage - Maybe a DCF-77 RX for generating a reference signal? -Regulators for battery charging -combinations of the above and and and I would be thankful for useful comments and hints. 73, Stefan/DK7FC