Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mp11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mp11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.193.79]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC053-a9694d46f7b912f; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:56:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C5AF438000111; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PjxyK-00086L-0q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:55:28 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PjxyJ-00086B-Kh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:55:27 +0000 Received: from mhost02c.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.76.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PjxyH-000507-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:55:27 +0000 Received: from APOLLO1.ds.leeds.ac.uk (apollo1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.5.4]) by mhost02c.leeds.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0VHtItM022095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:55:18 GMT Received: from HERMES8.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([fe80::c078:16b5:73cf:6fbc]) by APOLLO1.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.5.4]) with mapi; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:55:18 +0000 From: Chris Trayner To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:55:17 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave Thread-Index: AcvBcAVwDWYNyfasQ16D71gPqnjl5Q== Message-ID: <2B26EB0D-1850-4873-926D-F15167D765CB@leeds.ac.uk> References: <85896.7619.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <85896.7619.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc14f4d46f7b7433b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 31 Jan 2011, at 10:20, M0FMT wrote: However the BBC world service, the Government mouth-piece, is currently fu= nded by direct taxation which is probable more equitable than the new plan= which is to fund it out of the compulsory so called Licence Fee, collecte= d under threat of imprisonment, which is really a tax on a tax i.e. paid= out of taxed income. This is the dark side of English culture. Commercial radio and TV are arguably as bad or worse. They are paid for by= advertising; the firms which advertise get their advert money from sellin= g products. So if you buy products which are advertised you are presumably= subsidising many commercial channels which you don't watch, many indeed= outside your area. You can choose not to have a TV and licence, but you= can't realistically chose not to buy these products. But, really, do any of us care? The BBC Licence Fee is probably less than= 1% of your post-tax income. 73, Chris G4OKW