Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj07.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.143]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-8bc44d208a2520e; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:22:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dj07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8DD0E380000E9; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PZOoR-0000TA-Gy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:21:35 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PZOoQ-0000T1-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:21:34 +0000 Received: from mail-ew0-f43.google.com ([209.85.215.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PZOoO-0007mt-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:21:34 +0000 Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so6608758ewy.16 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:21:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance :x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=hOiYF+d6z4+RLV/22PeVtQHOzKHEw0OIg2iTrFgoRbY=; b=OOJYBEdlDet6xS34RXCH/XAh07Mm4eR6T24mU9jQZOiVJ7e5PbSaaN0FJUDemlULnA lAI/hzXcyODWOO8l/rChWlSza6iAFP4IxULtYbqnu3qr+F9EWSzFBXOZZIFOirdoWnos OUShx8/ZXM1SkerKpGCZiJsVQmJxa2Z5v/TxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=XFb9mV5cB+7ZTlqiLIMLCOr/TvcjoGB9eQmVNTp1IuyT32vjMZEnzVF1DTNi48mzGz yh5BXAnJyZE1ze8K36VH7CYMzARktuHltbCRGtOJhOehxPzKE/kSXXwbT2Q5BNzc/iU7 CjXz3u/TFTTCvi26/tEk5g2qgE0QAXWJLjGHo= Received: by 10.213.102.7 with SMTP id e7mr16277631ebo.48.1293978091169; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from PcMinto (ip5657a2f6.direct-adsl.nl [86.87.162.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t5sm13966329eeh.2.2011.01.02.06.21.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:21:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1F26C3DF915340749B0CC2911F803373@PcMinto> From: Minto Witteveen To: References: <003101cba9d8$c4b9c490$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004701cba9db$34488150$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf>,<686EA38CE64E4901AC2F231742873711@PCvanAlbert> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:21:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: All Dutch stations QRT Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m209.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d0c4d208a234e37 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 ?Rik, No, 505 is not a typo. In December 2010 the responsible Dutch ministry has published an interim draft for a new frequency plan. There are two relevant changes (for us Dutch radio amateurs): - allocation of 70 - 70.5 MHz on a secondary basis - early access allocation of the segment 501 - 505, until definite implementation of WRC12 There is a consultation period of 6 weeks, and if there are no further changes to the draft the powers that be (our government) must make it into law an formally publish it. Only then will we be allowed to operate on 500 again. This process will obviously take some time.... Nobody seems to know exactly how long, but chances are that favorable winter conditions will be gone by then....alas. Regards, Minto pa3bca From: Rik Strobbe Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 19:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: All Dutch stations QRT Hello Albert, is 501-505kHz a typo or do you expect an extra kHz ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Albert [westberg@xs4all.nl] Verzonden: zaterdag 1 januari 2011 19:25 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: All Dutch stations QRT LS. All our temporary experimental licenses ended 31 December 2010. We have to wait untill the band 501 - 505 kHz is included in our National Frequency Plan, this can take a few months. The status will become secondary so more stations will be able to participate. HNY, Albert PA0A