Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.221]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB081-a7d34d28810e19f; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 10:21:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 56886380000AC; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 10:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PbabL-0004tx-Jq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:21:07 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PbabL-0004tl-4U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:21:07 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate07.web.de ([217.72.192.248]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PbabJ-00068b-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:21:07 +0000 Received: from mwmweb066 ( [172.20.18.80]) by fmmailgate07.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41127772B78 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:20:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.161.216.211] by mwmweb066 with HTTP; Sat Jan 08 16:20:59 CET 2011 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:20:59 +0100 (CET) From: "Hans-Albrecht Haffa" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <1636956007.3807629.1294500059260.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb066> In-Reply-To: <4D283C59.6080303@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4D25EC9A.6030201@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <55F29B964A0142EE93CCD0BCFD084EDF@JimPC> <4D27796E.8020107@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>, <4D283C59.6080303@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+N8bFPUswZ0F5QJ+kP1HAhuUcelxmslG17E7ytbGPM2BrM0Yz3vkEV ksDLtCpzA57S4BYoCJrS68bhZXvxvra5woGAsOizCKQ= X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG=0.512,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC 137 kHz kite activity, qrv 15.20z Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_3807033_545688601.1294499989427" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40dd4d28810b0234 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_3807033_545688601.1294499989427 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id p08ASKl9020272 X-UI-ATTACHMENT-ID-POSTFIX: dfe4c5e1-b19c-4466-9c8b-31f1f90ab76e
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Dear lowfers,
= herad dk7fc/p A1A 136k80 15.20 UTC.

Von: "Stefan Schäfer" <schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>Gesendet: 08.01.2011 11:28:41
An: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: DK7FC 137 kHz kite activity, 8.= Jan.

LF,

I'll begin now starting the experiment. QRV in 3...4= hours...

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 07.01.2011 21:37, sc= hrieb Stefan Schäfer:
Daer LF group,

Due to the WX foreca= st i decided to start my activity tomorrow. It will be just on LF, no VLF= activity this time. Perhaps the wind is too strong so i can only use the= 100m kite with its 500 kp strong braid. The 300m kite has a 280 kp braid= which might be to weak but maybe i'm crazy enough to use it anyway. The= 300m kite is allowed to be used only in daylight. So, in the night= i have to go down to 100m anyway.

Apart from doing QSOs (hopefully) my goals are reaching the 4X1RF grabber in DFCW-3 and= the JA7NI grabber in DFCW-60 or 90. Furthermore i remember an almo= st-QSO with Ed / RU6LA. Would be nice if this could be completed.= I'll start in the afternoon, maybe 11 UTC, without to much stress. But i= plan to stay long, so hopefully a contact to USA and maybe even Argentini= a could be possible? Maybe even a trace at VE7TIL? LF-Dreaming!!!
BT= W i am interested in local QSOs as well, not only DX is of interest!!
Since my LF converter isn't finished i have to use the DDS VFO= for LF which is slightly drifting in a QRSS-60 window but i'll be in cont= act with DF6NM who can tell me the drift and offset ;-)

If all= works well, my CW QRG will be 136.8 kHz, DFCW-3 137.7 kHz and DFCW-60/90= 136.177 kHz(+- 3 Hz). My receivers are the 706, the K2 (with a GW4ALG 30m= -converter) and the new /p RX that is under test... During transmitting DF= CW-3 i will receive in DFCW-3 and 10.

My /p RX is still not op= timised but at least i got a QSO with RA3YO in DFCW3/8 last year and a CW= contact to M0BMU and G3KEV. I'll have my CW key there and hope for some= nice contacts!

Any reports are much appreciated! :-)
Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 06.01.2011 22:33, schrieb James= Moritz:
Dear Stefan, LF Group,

_Questions:_ Is my calculation reasonably useful? Would YOU ad= d that
coil in a height of 100m above GND?

I have found with NEC simulations that they give you a reasonable= idea of the impedance, but not a precise value. Especially for the resist= ance, where there are many unknowns - NEC really only sets a lower limit.=

On the basis of the calculations, I would first try without= the coil, then if results are as expected, I would try it with the coil.= Otherwise there are too many variables to make sense of the experiment -= if the coil goes up and the impedance is totally different from the calcu= lation, is it because of the coil, the antenna, or the calculation?
=

I tend to let it be since the improvement isn't that mu= ch and the effort
is high. Furthermore the coil losses could be hig= her since i have to use
a thin wire to keep the weight small...

Yes - the 136k coils I have made with Q > 300 have been rather= big, either with RF Litz wire or thick solid wire.

Hope to= see some signals at the weekend,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
= 73 de M0BMU


  

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