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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:30:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: LF: Transmissions on 8970Hz
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Hi Markus!

Thank you for your answer the explaination.

I switched down for 3mHz intentionally to be more apart from Ossi's
signal at 8970.03 and to compensate a little upward drifting....it's
getting colder outside and so in my garage.

73, tnx
OE3GHB
Gerhard
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Am Sonntag, den 23.01.2011, 14:21 +0100 schrieb Markus Vester:
> Hi Gerhard,
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> compared to the capacitive fields of the antenna at VLF, the building
> will anyway be nearly a short circuit to ground. Connecting the
> lightning protector will divert some of the current which would
> otherwise be going through the house, but the relative difference in
> the external E-field distribution will only be small.=20
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> I have a similar situation with the LF TX antenna, which is about 10 m
> above the roof of our two-floor house. There is a vapour barrier made
> of thin aluminium sheets under the roof, and two of the strips can
> be accessed electrically. By connecting those to ground, about 15
> percent of the total antenna current could be collected, and this
> helped to significantly reduce the e-fields indoors, and also slightly
> the loss resistance.
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> On your grabber, it looks like you have switched frequency from
> 8970.00 to 8969.97 sometime around 12:15 - was this a real step, or an
> artifact due to receiver samplerate correction?
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> Best 73,
> Markus
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> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:53 PM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
> Subject: RE: LF: Transmissions on 8970Hz
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> Hello again!
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> At about 12:30UT I disconnected the lightning protector again.
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> At 500mA Antenna current the wires from the roof are at about 200V and
> the current to earth was measured at 60mA.
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> I did this connecting/disconnecting-test now several times but the
> signal received by Lubos in 40km distance didn't show any noticeable
> difference. That's a riddle to me.
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> The only difference I notice locally, is that the field-strength in my
> shack (directly under the roof) is much higher when the protector is
> disconnected because the shielding effect of all the metal parts on
> the
> roof isn't given any more. This also can be seen on my grabber.
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> 73
> Gerhard
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> Am Sonntag, den 23.01.2011, 13:01 +0100 schrieb Gerhard Hickl:
> > Hello Lubos and group!
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> > Yes, I started at about 11UT.
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> > Yesterday at 12:45UT I reconnected the lightning protector of the
> house
> > to ground but I couldn't see any difference on the plot you sent.
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> > So I guess if connected or not doesn't play a big role. On the other
> > hand, there's a high voltage on the wire coming down the roof which
> must
> > lead to some current flowing to ground.
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> > Maybe I will disconnect again in the afternoon and measure Voltage
> and
> > Current.
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> > Today we have strong wind here and I will see how long I can keep
> the TX
> > running.
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> > 73, tnx
> > OE3GHB
> > Gerhard
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> > Am Sonntag, den 23.01.2011, 12:40 +0100 schrieb Lubos OK2BVG:
> > > Hello Gerhard, VLF!
> > > I noticed, that you had started transmissin at 11:00UT ( S/N =3D
> 15dB).
> > >  I saw Ossi=C2=B4s transmission from 09:30 to 11:00UT, but very weak=
ly,
> as
> > > usual
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> > > Lubos, oK2BVG
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> > > ***************************
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> > > > From: gerhard.hickl@aon.at
> > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > > > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:07:28 +0100
> > > > Subject: Re: LF: Transmissions on 8970Hz
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> > > > Hello Daniele, group!
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> > > > I will fire up later slightly below 8970.
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> > > > Ossi is already transmitting.
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> > > > 73
> > > > OE3GHB
> > > > Gerhard
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> > > > Am Sonntag, den 23.01.2011, 00:54 -0800 schrieb Daniele Tincani:
> > > > > Hello VLF,
> > > > > any transmission tests planned today?
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > D.
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