Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dg06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dg06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.14]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD072-8b8d4d32ef1e3c1; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:14:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0EF5F380000BF; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PeSQ3-0005lQ-Fe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:13:19 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PeSQ3-0005lH-36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:13:19 +0000 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PeSQ1-00022h-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:13:19 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Jan 2011 13:13:11 -0000 Received: from p5DC430EE.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.196.48.238] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 16 Jan 2011 14:13:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19DlkYSMrVDyjBEnlb4dimIW2GMXsMp6ReVi9H4+C jGaB0jYliJQmtv Message-ID: <015d01cbb57f$1feb9d00$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <4D7062BE2D504CA4A55BDE1C7103CF31@gmc.net> <04DC6D14A81F4542B1D2189A5440F3D5@DennisPC> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:13:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Mini-Whip Antenna Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410e4d32ef1c0e6c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 Dennis, if the loop-preamp system is well balanced the loop doesn't need screening. E.g. the Wellbrook ALA1530 broadband loop is unshielded. Therefore its preamp is a push-pull design. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "DENNIS EASTERLING" To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:15 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Mini-Whip Antenna > Dear Roelof and Petr > > When I first tried the mini-whip I was very sceptical of its > performance, > but in my circumstances, living surrounded by houses and near a main > line > electric railway ((25kV) it has performed very well indeed. > > I tried tuned loops of various sizes but the qrm is overwhelming in > such > close quarters to the switched mode power units and machines > operating in > nearby houses. Out of various loops, the wide band untuned > screened loop > seemed the best option, with a simple 1m loop of co-ax cable and > amplifier > tied to the back fence and the Wellbrook ALA1530 giving similar > performance > at MF, although the Welbrook is better engineered and mounted on a > rotator. ...