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(VPS 110116-0, 16/01/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Capacitance switch box design - what is the simplest? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d281.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d54d331557757a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 Or "5" caps 1,2,4,8,16...... really 5 switches becasue you may need to parallel caps to meet these values. I suggest the high voltage pulse-rated caps that we (Andy et al) were recently talking about using in high power PA tuning. I use WIMA PHE 428 series, which I think I got from RS (Farnell do a RIFA equivalent) I guess they were about 75p each a few years ago. Very high voltages are generated across the loop when you apply power, so its a shame to subject good quality caps in a sub box that that kind of treatment (yup I am a test equipment hugger :-)) ) You will probably want a smaller "granularity" than 1nF, so you may need to include a 470PF and a 500pF wide spaced variable in the box, especially if as you quote it is a high Q loop. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Evans" To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: LF: Re: Capacitance switch box design - what is the simplest? > > across the capacitance can be very many times larger than that at 50 ohms. > > > > So, I need *to build a capacitance selection box with values from around > > 0-30nF with sufficient resolution to fine tune a hi-Q loop*. I will need > > the > > capacitors to be rated sufficiently high voltage to cope with any power > > level I am likely to put into the loop antenna (almost certainly never > > more > > than 20-30W though). > > > > My questions are these: > > > > (a) what is the best *choice of capacitors* - type, voltage working, pulse > > behaviour, accuracy, price? > > (b) what is the *simplest arrangement* to give me the adjustment accuracy > > and range I need with the fewest parts and fewest switches? > > > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > > > 73s > > Roger G3XBM > > > Well, to do 1nF to 30nF in 1nF steps, you need six caps and six switches - > > 1, 2, 2, 5, 10, 10nf caps > > all in parallel, with a (toggle?) switch in series with each capacitor. > > Martin GW3UCJ. > > > >