Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.77]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA041-85e64d27109e2e8; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:09:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 16B3D38000157; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PbC3u-0006Gy-3G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:08:58 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PbC3t-0006Gp-FZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:08:57 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PbC3q-0004yy-TQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:08:57 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnEFAP6eJk1cEY9q/2dsb2JhbACCKY9dkiBzvEOFTASBX4xiglw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,289,1291593600"; d="scan'208,217";a="486046907" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.17.143.106]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 07 Jan 2011 13:08:47 +0000 Message-ID: <005101cbae6c$04e29410$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002801cbadf3$1e15bb70$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <1294359648.6336.6.camel@vaio3rd> <001501cbae53$54fee2a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4D26EE51.8010706@o2.ie>,<001f01cbae5c$01cc94c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <556535.74415.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:08:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01CBAE6C.048F43F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604d4d27109b4fe3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CBAE6C.048F43F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The USA seems happy to use FEET, INCHES and OUNCES and POUNDS and= PINTS and GALLONS as measurements. In EU it seems one must do what one is told if a member of the EEC. although there is talk of some countries reverting back to the Deutch= Mark, Italian Lira, etc it seems getting fed up with the EURO alread= y. Bring back the CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES. Has anyone ever heard of a BIHERTZ, TRIHERTZ or MOTORHERTZ. proposed= changes for BICYCLE, TRICYCLE and MOTORCYCLE g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M0FMT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Hi Rik You have to admit that the introduction of the Hertz was a bit of a= sop. All due respect to the bloke. I remember, I think it was "Wirele= ss World" a proper Journal in the 50/60s had a Log / Linear graph prov= iding a simple way to convert from c/s to Hz when the Hz was introduce= d. =20 73 es GL petefmt=20 I support www.NotSpotTelecom.Com your community Telco / ISP.=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Sent: Fri, 7 January, 2011 12:22:38 Subject: RE: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to=20 > FREQUENCY of OCCURENCE those who prefer to use units that were decommissioned in 1960 (when= the SI system was introduced) should at least do it correct : "cycles= per second", just "cycles" is meaningless. > Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is tech= nically > inapproapriat when describing Frequency. So we also have to get rid of Farad (named after Michael Faraday),= Volt (Alexander Volta), Ohm (Simon Ohm), Amp=E9re (Andr=E9-Marie Ampe= re), Henry (Joseph Henry), Coulomb (Charles-Augustin de Coulomb), Joul= e (James Joule), Watt (James Watt) and so on ... A lot of work to do ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2011 12:14 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Tony In the electronic context. There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to FREQUENCY= of OCCURENCE and can be observed on a 'Scope for example but what does= a HERTZ look like. Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is techni= cally inapproapriat when describing Frequency. Rumour has it that one EU member state wants a RESISTOR renamed BANS= HEE G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" To: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > Maybe at the same time we could ask other people to use SI units= of > frequency ? > > 73, Tony, EI8JK. > > > On 07/01/2011 10:12, mal hamilton wrote: > > GD Rick > > Your message about grabbers vy useful. Could you ask Grabber ope= rators to > > use UTC please. > > Tnx de Malcolm/G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick Wakatori"<7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:20 AM > > Subject: LF: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > > > > > >> The following URL shows 7 LF grabbers currentry opend in Jap= an. > >> Please try to access when your computer works well. > >> http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/ja-grabbers.html > >> > >> -- > >> -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > >> 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Kanagawa,Japan(JP) > >> URL =3D http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > >> -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01CBAE6C.048F43F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The USA seems happy to use FEET,=20 INCHES   and OUNCES and POUNDS  and PINTS and GALL= ONS as=20 measurements.
In EU it seems one must do what one= is told if a=20 member of the EEC.
although there is talk of some countr= ies reverting=20 back to the Deutch Mark,  Italian Lira, etc it seems getting fed= up with=20 the EURO already.
Bring back the CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and= =20 MEGACYCLES.
Has anyone ever heard of a BIHERTZ,= TRIHERTZ =20 or MOTORHERTZ. proposed changes for BICYCLE, TRICYCLE and=20 MOTORCYCLE
g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Friday, January 07, 201= 1 12:40=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRAB= BERS at a=20 same time

Hi Rik
 
You have to admit that the introduction of the Hertz was a bit= of a sop.=20 All due respect to the bloke. I remember, I think it was "Wirel= ess=20 World" a proper Journal in the 50/60s had a Log /=20 Linear graph providing a simple way to convert from c/s to= Hz when=20 the Hz was introduced.
 
73 es GL petefmt=20


I support www.Not= SpotTelecom.Com your community=20 Telco / ISP.=20


From: Rik Strobbe=20 <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Fri, 7 January, 2011=20 12:22:38
Subject:= RE: LF: Re:=20 JA GRRABBERS at a same time

> There are CYCLES, KIL= OCYCLES=20 and MEGACYCLES all related to
> FREQUENCY of OCCURENCE
tho= se who=20 prefer to use units that were decommissioned in 1960 (when the SI sy= stem was=20 introduced) should at least do it correct : "cycles per second", jus= t "cycles"=20 is meaningless.

> Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its= someones=20 Name and is technically
> inapproapriat when describing Freque= ncy.
So=20 we also have to get rid of Farad (named after Michael Faraday), Volt= =20 (Alexander Volta), Ohm (Simon Ohm), Amp=E9re (Andr=E9-Marie Ampere),= Henry (Joseph=20 Henry), Coulomb (Charles-Augustin de Coulomb), Joule (James Joule),= Watt=20 (James Watt) and so on ...
A lot of work to do ;-)

73, Rik=  =20 ON7YD - OR7T


________________________________________
= Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org]=20 namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
V= erzonden:=20 vrijdag 7 januari 2011 12:14
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp:=20 Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time

Tony
In the electr= onic=20 context.
There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related= to=20 FREQUENCY of
OCCURENCE and can be observed on a 'Scope for exampl= e but what=20 does a HERTZ
look like.
Hertz is a meaningless label in fact= its=20 someones Name and is technically
inapproapriat when describing=20 Frequency.
Rumour has it that one EU member state wants a RESISTO= R renamed=20 BANSHEE

G3KEV



----- Original Message -----
= From:=20 "Tony" <ei8jk@o2.ie>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent:=20 Friday, January 07, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBE= RS at a=20 same time


> Maybe at the same time we could ask other= people to=20 use SI units of
> frequency ?
>
> 73, Tony,=20 EI8JK.
>
>
> On 07/01/2011 10:12, mal hamilton=20 wrote:
> > GD Rick
> > Your message about grabbers= vy=20 useful. Could you ask Grabber operators
to
> > use UTC= =20 please.
> > Tnx de Malcolm/G3KEV
> >
> >= -----=20 Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Wakatori"<7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>
>=20 > To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg>
>=20 > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:20 AM
> > Subject:= LF: JA=20 GRRABBERS at a same time
> >
> >
> >>&= nbsp;=20   The following URL shows 7 LF grabbers currentry opend in Japa= n.
>=20 >> Please try to access when your computer works well.
>= >>=20 http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/ja-grabbers= .html
>=20 >>
> >> --
> >> -.. .  --... = ; .-..=20 .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-.
> >> 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux= in=20 Kawasaki,Kanagawa,Japan(JP)
> >> URL =3D ht= tp://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html
>=20 >> -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-.
>=20 >>
> >>
> >
> >
>=20 >
>
>

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