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(VPS 110115-1, 15/01/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Separate Receiving Antenna? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d302.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60104d3225342163 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Toni this is like the old days :-)) nice to have a chance to chat= again. My thought is how far could you get say a loop away from the vertical?= ? if it must be quite close you will need to detune the vertical during rec= eiving on the other antenna. When the boys here used the Decca mast they need= ed a big attenuator (40dB ish) just to lkill the noise so it didn not overp= ower the receiver front end. I think a couple of other stations using "commercial" antennas have had the same problem. Plus the fact that if= they have warning lights the chokes in the supply to the lights doent give= much impedance at 136, might be ok at 500 but propably still a bit on the= low side as that sounds like a MW mast ?? Good Luck with it. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Anton B=E4rtschi" To: Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: LF: Separate Receiving Antenna? > Soon I may use a freestanding and isolated 125m mast with an excelle= nt > radial network for LF. Should I use a separate receiving antenna or= try to > receive also with the mast? > 73 de Toni >