Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.80]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA053-b5264d402d3f1c8; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:18:40 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5BB4A380000B0; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pi6C4-0000Da-0m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:17:56 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pi6C3-0000DQ-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:17:55 +0000 Received: from nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pi6C2-0005Kd-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:17:55 +0000 Received: from [77.238.189.52] by nm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2011 14:17:48 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.123] by tm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2011 14:17:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2011 14:17:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 848989.87352.bm@omp1032.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 19087 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2011 14:17:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=O8P5vetIEjpI6MsrqFbUsDF94WmB/cT6TToHdxM72S/75iS6tWoTTLOGI5kfCVloIammJKOLHPA+/YYXYeoyAaUCG+6G11qvwsVQugvvMKfza6amXtmZANhh9KM9EHLSvxD2K6jGjAxLDojgpkqle5BFoZ/kySAdsvjNHNg47ys= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1296051468; bh=LVe4vqKX1Xybl9ZAV6VLQjWbslmhAz84C9KLp76YwlQ=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=gErC8oce5XQpSjRiR2HfGHO55xvOTJmiEmHlrqonUfJQhPqmqqKbh7oJjSloPXpce9HLgtNAp5ANOOaFHd2R+UjYGrE1aYFZw7iUcU97pFCWX5d9cEmpp0MBRsg0q25zQsRK+dUGZo4TGTJPMxHYp7J2+sV/i19pIUdXVTkf6Gs= Received: from lark (alan.melia@86.157.31.254 with login) by smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2011 14:17:45 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: lQIWgKQVM1kRoPEdZ3N5dcvRwcPuadF1frAi4UsG2cgEnaw 4me3k.leXds.xK0VvL_lkVLm27_GzTd2D99ea5PHWJs1pzfkwkjLO4IPXqpW .3p5l3FrA9CwYjQ4KeRnwfSdy.kVLlQbCJM8u0NUA4g17pwdkq1tOqz_Wdmx riQ71JnD8es3CckguJ0FTikvQ6K_ebufmOWs719JWwWJt5_49CWTyZcDMLlK oT5FvfOKTU1ig8wCw6FLJZwXWbjIH7hH36u104A1KFtLYK2tRC4R5IJoO7nO Dk.dysu8v7_4EMQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003701cbbd63$daa305c0$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:12:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110126-0, 26/01/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: A 73kHz allocation again? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m260.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60504d402d3e44c1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 There is still a UK allocation smack in the midlle of the old band......now in the VT Comms (Anthorn?) portfolio I guess.....this made reception very difficult here when it was continually idling at Rugby. They might be less understanding about an amateur band there than BT/Admiralty was. It seemed significant that the NoV were terminated when VT took over that service. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: A 73kHz allocation again? > AAAArrrrrgggghhhh > > Sold the old 73kHz loading coil at FR Hamfest last year :-) > > But yes. 73 was more interesting that 137 turned out to be, whilst not > being impossible to do something worthwhile for everyone who managed to get > on. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > > > > > > > On 26 January 2011 10:38, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > > > All, > > > > Looking at recent plots and listed VLF/LF stations active there would > > appear to be room in the 70-74kHz region for some amateur activity in Europe > > without risk to other services. I wonder, seriously, if we asked OFCOM (and > > other authorities in Europe) for NoV access to the 73kHz band whether it > > would be granted. They were helpful and supportive with regard to 8.7-9.1kHz > > NoVs and seem to accept that genuine research activities warrant support and > > encouragement. After all, only a handful of people would be interested. > > > > With the progress in weak signal work since the 73kHz band was last > > available in the UK and with the new experiences of some at 8.97kHz (and > > 136kHz), there is surely a good case to support this as an experimental > > allocation via a NoV. I'd be keen to try earth mode and radiated tests > > (locally) at 73kHz. > > > > What do people think? Should I ask OFCOM like I did for the Dreamer's Band > > NoV and see what happens or should this be via the RSGB? > > > > 73s > > Roger G3XBM > > > > -- > > g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > > www.g3xbm.co.uk > > www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > > > > > > > > > >