Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.139]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-869c4d46dd77397; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:04:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 12EE23800008D; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PjwDW-0006al-Qt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:03:02 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PjwDW-0006ac-Dz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:03:02 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PjwDU-00041e-Cf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:03:02 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMZrRk1cEYAL/2dsb2JhbACIUo1GP44ic70ngyYBgicEkAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,404,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="466922759" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.17.128.11]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 31 Jan 2011 16:02:53 +0000 Message-ID: <002301cbc160$4efa5180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: , <4D46CE2C.8030206@o2.ie>, <4D46E884.13766.47BD3EE@jurgenb2.3sdesign.de> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408b4d46dd745f83 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jurgen I have also been told if you go to Church in Germany you must PAY and= have no option, the money is deducted from your pay. In the UK its a free offering. Strayed a bit from LF info. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jurgen Bartels" To: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave > I can confirm this - having once enquired of TVLO just to see if it= was > possible, but still needing a set coz of Am TV > They even stated the conditions for the TV to be legal, which were= : > > Not connected to any antenna > All channel buttons "detuned" I envy you Brits living in the land of liberty !! We have to pay when - there's a TV or radio in the house, no matter if it's connected or= not - there's a PC connected to internet - have to pay a 2nd fee if the (same) PC is used for business - every company has to pay radio fee for each division if there's a PC connected to internet - every car radio when used for business - every vacation home - every garden shack with radio / TV if it's more than 1km from your= house - hotels, hospitals etc, even when the viewer cannot simultanously can't wath at home It's a total rip off and the organisation collecting it (called GEZ)= has enormous power and gets data from your community. They immediately got informed when I moved house. Jurgen Bartels Suellwarden, N. Germany hor. Antennas: 11-ele 45-87MHz 13-ele Band-III, 48-ele UHF, FM: 15.11 TV: Winradio G305 / Fly2000 + video noise filter & variable IF BW FM: Downconverter + Perseus + Speclab as WFM demod. MW: staggered 300m Beverage 320=B0, 30 x 4m EWE 320=B0, Winradio & Pe= rseus http://dx.3sdesign.de/tv_offset_list.htm http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm http://fewo.3sdesign.de - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coa= st