Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dl10.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dl10.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.74.216]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB041-85f04d131f11123; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 05:06:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl10.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2214E3800010D; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 05:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PVi2g-0000RU-7H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:05:02 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PVi2f-0000RL-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:05:01 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PVi2d-0001Nn-2U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:05:01 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6E8759C86 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:04:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n4.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.14]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69E531E704 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:04:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.14]) with mapi; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:04:50 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:04:49 +0100 Thread-Topic: Full ID Thread-Index: Acuh+RDK9SG+Pc+ASSOXjtEU5JRu3QAjmSVE Message-ID: References: <4D122CE9.26517.19CC01F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4D122CE9.26517.19CC01F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Full ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad84d131f0f2296 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Mike, all, for propagation test purposes (sound much better than beaconing) all we ne= ed is an unambiguous identification. A single character will lead to confu= sion, but 2 characters should do the job.=20 So what about using the 2 last characters of the callsign ? That would make most ID's more or less of the same length. G3XDV would use "DV", OR7T would use "7T", DF6NM would use "NM" and so on. I cannot see any conflicts right now (=3D 2 stations active in propagation= tests with identical 2 last characters). Is national law requires a full id it can always be send in 12WMP CW. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens Mike Dennison [mike.dennison@ntlworld.com] Verzonden: woensdag 22 december 2010 17:52 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Full ID OK, it seems that most people want full suffixes to be sent. I believe I had good reasons to use a short ID, but I am happy to go along with the majority view. Of course the final straw was Mal threatening not to talk to me! Beacon tonight (in addition to, and not instead of, real QSOs) will be on 136.177kHz, 'XDV' synchronised with the start of each hour. 73 de Mike =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D