Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj12.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.96]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-86404cfa444e22e; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 08:38:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 4CFC4380000D2; Sat, 4 Dec 2010 08:38:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1POsIo-0005mD-Ig for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:37:26 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1POsIn-0005m4-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:37:25 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com ([209.85.214.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1POsIl-0003gn-8X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:37:25 +0000 Received: by bwz14 with SMTP id 14so9038106bwz.16 for ; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:37:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=33bB/N4c162bn0vow1Jsf+LCPsU2oDFbJz5ubigN5Ro=; b=CDJ5Hpp2arx/OHEIxgNvBQYCO6xA9EmCcEDrFX+nR+OfwNeJca6Wbdrf+5yIy6uxZT /yMmrop/uPkyIoHvbBig6ofTbuhfu7uMxYlyyNrOmDKGRlv5ovZtX+5MSafaeeFQ6PaO +r142MymgE9P3F9lC2Ee25FDevzjbNZDJpTWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UFo2pxYMiq94CoJtw5cEKJI+0y8o1fjHlRH4gXcG/Cu9VySFo3RO3FiyWsyJ2LItCc NxkhHMDUNn8ukUzjaXnlVWVOgqiS3Y1Rz20xkOhhZcZ43raaxPMpvQkXD+OwHAM4kIVe uNH2T1WmndLGA9moaS5+BDF5y2QFoSgdJAYhE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.4 with SMTP id k4mr3678505bkq.187.1291469841378; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.74.99 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Dec 2010 05:37:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8E279999662345BDA3D758BCF898F216@White> References: <20101204110539.21640@gmx.net> <1291465596.1941.9.camel@gerhard-desktop> <4CFA35A2.5030803@online.fr> <8E279999662345BDA3D758BCF898F216@White> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:37:21 +0200 Message-ID: From: Chris Gomoiu To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: 8970 in JN06ht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5975d222fd8049695c156 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039400c89b84cfa444b536e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5975d222fd8049695c156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus, You may have solved the puzzle already, thanks! To the naked eye it looks like the pattern is there. I'm recording a wav file of Stefan's experiment= , hope to find a way to further process it but I do need help for this. Propagation seems to go down now, studying the MSKs signal levels for many days now, looks like the best time to receive Stefan is 10-12UTC. Nonetheless, I'm very happy for this and I do congratulate Stefan for his perseverance and for showing us all what can be achieved at this frequenci= es with amateur radio means only. Hope he's taking well care of himself in th= e forest cold out there. Back to watching the grabber now and hopefully, decode the "special" messa= ge he's currently transmitting :-)) A very exiting day! 73s Chris 4X1RF On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Markus Vester wrote= : > Hi Chris, there is indeed also a hint of the 6.47 kHz transmission. > Attached is a clip from your grabber, with an inset from a > Heidelberg screenshot at same scale. You can clearly make out your rows > of bright pixels above the dash and the "R". > > Congratulations, this is excellent work! > > 73, Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Chris Gomoiu > *Sent:* Saturday, December 04, 2010 1:45 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: VLF: 8970 in JN06ht > > Hello Gerhard, VLF, > > Yes, definitely a signal here and quite sterong also, simply unbelievabl= e! > I think I may have seen also a trace of Stefan's 6470Hz transmission but > very, very weak. Further post-processing must be applied to maybe reveal= the > possible signal. > > Very exiting!!! > > 73s all, > > Chris 4X1RF > VLF grabber: http://qsl.net/4x1rf/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm > > > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:35 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" < > jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote: > >> Hello Stefan , LF/VLF , >> >> Good copy in JN06ht ! but many QRM today ! >> >> 73 Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >> Le 04/12/2010 13:26, Gerhard Hickl a =E9crit : >> >>> Hello Markus ! >>> >>> Yes, it is Ossi but he now went down for 100mHz. >>> >>> I just saw Stefans trace also on the 4X grabber !!!!! >>> >>> Could you tell him? >>> >>> 73 >>> OE3GHB >>> Gerhard >>> >>> >>> >>> Am Samstag, den 04.12.2010, 13:14 +0100 schrieb Markus Vester: >>> >>>> Even before Stefan started on 8970.0, there seemed to be a weak trace >>>> on the OE3GHB grabber >>>> http://members.aon.at/grabber/VLF/index.html >>>> >>>> Possibly another transmission from OE5ODL? There's a fat trace on >>>> Ossi's grabber >>>> http://www.langwelle.at/ >>>> >>>> I hope this is not creating confusion. >>>> >>>> Best 73 and good luck, >>>> Markus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Guido Barzen >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:05 PM >>>> To: Rsgb Lf >>>> Subject: LF: 6470 transmitting R >>>> >>>> >>>> Stefan has started sending an R. Low tone- high tone - low tone. >>>> >>>> After the R he will extend the antenna from 200 to 300 mtrs. 10 >>>> minutes later he will transmit on 8970 Hz. We will report the >>>> beginning of that transmission. >>>> >>>> Guido >>>> DF9PW >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > --001636c5975d222fd8049695c156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Markus,

You may have solved the puzzle alrea= dy, thanks! To the naked eye it looks like the pattern is there. I'm= recording a wav file of Stefan's experiment, hope to find a way to fu= rther process it but I do need help for this.

Propagation seems to go down now, studying the MSKs signal levels for= many days now, looks like the best time to receive Stefan is 10-12UTC. No= netheless, I'm very happy for this and I do congratulate Stefan for hi= s perseverance and for showing us all what can be achieved at this frequen= cies with amateur radio means only. Hope he's taking well care of hims= elf in the forest cold out there.

Back to watching the grabber now and hopefully, decode the "speci= al" message he's currently transmitting :-))

A very exitin= g day!

73s
Chris 4X1RF



=A0

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> wrot= e:
Hi Chris, there is indeed also a hint= of=20 the=A06.47 kHz=A0transmission. Attached is a clip from your grabber, with= =20 an=A0inset from=A0a Heidelberg=A0screenshot at same scale. You can=20 clearly make out your rows of=A0bright pixels above the dash and the=20 "R".
=A0
Congratulations, this is excellent=20 work!
=A0
73, Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: VLF: 8970 in JN06ht

Hello Gerhard, VLF,

Yes, definitely a signal here= and quite=20 sterong also, simply unbelievable!
I think I may have seen also a trace= of=20 Stefan's 6470Hz transmission but very, very weak. Further post-process= ing must=20 be applied to maybe reveal the possible signal.

Very=20 exiting!!!

73s all,

Chris 4X1RF
VLF grabber: http://qsl.net/4= x1rf/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm


On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:35 PM, "Jean-Pier= re M=E9r=E9=20 (F1AFJ)" <jpm.f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
Hello=20 Stefan , LF/VLF ,

Good copy in JN06ht =A0! but many QRM today=20 !

73 Jean-Pierre f1afj

Le 04/12/2010 13:26, Gerhard Hickl= a=20 =E9crit :
Hello=20 Markus !

Yes, it is Ossi but he now went down for 100mHz.
I=20 just saw Stefans trace also on the 4X grabber !!!!!

Could you= tell=20 him?

73
OE3GHB
Gerhard



Am Samstag, den=20 04.12.2010, 13:14 +0100 schrieb Markus Vester:
Even=20 before Stefan started on 8970.0, there seemed to be a weak trace
= on the=20 OE3GHB grabber
http://members.aon.at/grabber/VLF/index.html<= br>
Possibly=20 another transmission from OE5ODL? There's a fat trace on
Ossi= 's=20 grabber
ht= tp://www.langwelle.at/

I hope this is not=20 creating confusion.

Best 73 and good=20 luck,
Markus



From: Guido Barzen
Sent: Saturday,= =20 December 04, 2010 12:05 PM
To: Rsgb Lf
Subject: LF: 6470=20 transmitting R


Stefan has started sending an R. Low tone-= high=20 tone - low tone.

After the R he will extend the antenna from= 200 to=20 300 mtrs. 10
minutes later he will transmit on 8970 Hz. We will= report=20 the
beginning of that=20 transmission.

Guido
DF9PW






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