Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.79]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF023-8bcf4d1b035df3; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 04:46:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 080B038000096; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 04:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PXsaE-00052b-7H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:44:38 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PXsaD-00052S-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:44:37 +0000 Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PXsaB-000606-Fc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:44:37 +0000 Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so10049865iwn.16 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:44:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9EXmFADaXf1889G8bbHFpv/+f4upGonPVJ4ZHIYds/k=; b=IqYaGPOIz/O8Bjh3dkD8aQ9cP2BDruA7OQJxQaerEa6BHMKRGJJqpb8f17FkUV6U8C bGEEMJ/HdLk7ZZizkAxv/CyAOW6oRswOWGr0kJNGDCtqA6KkLaP0Uhj3zGcSL6FePmyN WS2LDUmGJJnmYBtt3uBtgQbgKn6qpHlk01It8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eC8Vc5w5xOW/ov3Hj3TempomRtRIaFikdanmzGpFME9wlC+N0CIHUi0PQNg2dr3Sj7 EN2bi5gMpgMQQ0qkbyqMJLyD60zwZHyEmULAE4DsVSdupcf71F/8vqyvFUdpBuhclRyb 4yiaNXJwQaCHWc+RGtLGBLDyGH6MUpLFrmJts= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.10 with SMTP id eq10mr14109750ibb.112.1293615873914; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.211 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:44:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <29880.89039.qm@web28513.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <29880.89039.qm@web28513.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:44:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VLF Loading Coil Problems - G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc4c6a3f9de0498896a94 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d308.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604f4d1b035b799e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --90e6ba4fc4c6a3f9de0498896a94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a large air cored coil I would have thought a shorted turn would just shift the inductance very slilghtly - rather than lowering the Q significantly. Andy www.g4jnt.com On 29 December 2010 08:26, Chris Osborn wrote: > LF, > > Many thanks for all efforts, advice and suggestions from members of the > group. > I shall E-mail them personally within the next few days. > > I spent several hours yesterday re-winding a section of my VLF loading > coil. > There are abour 1200 turns of 0.2 mm wire which had to be hand wound at a > rate of 4 turns per minute (max). > > I was disappointed (to say the least) when the coil resonated at the > correct frequency but had a very low Q. > Either there's a short-circuit in the other section of the coil or I've > introduced a short into the newly re-wound part. > In any event I am QRT until I can sort the problem. > > I have social engagements today and will take another look at it tomorrow. > > 73 > Chris G3XIZ > > > > --90e6ba4fc4c6a3f9de0498896a94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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