Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.11]) by air-db02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB022-861c4d1a1ec21b2; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:30:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DD57238000DBB; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PXdFt-0001Be-4j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:22:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PXdFs-0001BV-Ks for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:22:36 +0000 Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com ([74.125.82.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PXdFp-0001Pt-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:22:36 +0000 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38so9274792wyb.16 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:22:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/YEOtjOuHp7k8fLtcVOU/QetoOe4GLGPV2D5e80MEdQ=; b=EMWZggKRqpM03KIC6BpACdRyrvKJDHnKsxDeYFGPeKJQ5G2QpNj/0UaWFJjS8eWHIg J2xQEg7ejF36TOdFkQxLfdAe5wuf+7X3/xwX4vpo8iEddQClpGH0bUp7wfLmBwHOWPt2 3UfbPkCbNQighJ7Spq/70zcaWIznf/CGFHsB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w6nhxotkP6QnHkLc7aDAdVrFvVMU8AX+zjWDhb8aZ8kODP4PvrBdAUV+J7IckeNm1p cvpG0rjZmkvaltUUYO69ixUm184wKArBnHjsa/Wc4wnv4sYJ7P56j9k+Mf3iUuFqQqxN swTZ7YNhEpHayHiuCijvMPMK8eYtnlt4xfeZs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.217.3.13 with SMTP id q13mr1328121wes.70.1293556948014; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.69.15 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:22:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:22:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 160 to 190 KHz a real magic band ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600b4d1a1d12606a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, N.B. the distances quoted (1148km and 2000km) are what you might expect for a station running in beacon mode 24x7 and there is a brief light qrss trace at the very peak of propagation during extremely quiet conditions which might occur once every year or couple of years. Not a suitable signal for a QSO over these distances. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Graham wrote: > Lifted=A0 from the=A0 WSPR=A0 web site=A0 http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ > > 1 watt and=A0 15=A0 mtrs=A0 of antenna ,decoding=A0 over=A0 1148 kmtrs= =A0=A0, (best round > 2000k) =A0=A0=A0seems=A0 to=A0 make the=A0 137=A0 attempts look a little= 'coy=A0 with > somewhat=A0 bigger power levels and=A0 rather=A0 large=A0 arrays , (poss= ibly > mal-adjusted ?) > > Is this=A0 a band=A0 like 500=A0 with=A0 enhanced=A0 propagation ? > > WHAT IS THE=A0 POSSIBILITY OF A=A0 TA=A0 DECODE ? > > The frequency range is 160 to 190 KHz. This is most commonly known as > Part-15 operation ( under our FCC Part-15 rules ). The basics: Power is > limited to 1 Watt DC Input to the Final amplifier, and the antenna lengt= h > cannot exceed 15 meters, including the feed line, > > (XR4TN=A0 is the experimental=A0 call=A0 of=A0 KU4XR) > > 2010-12-10 11:16 XR4TN 0.185701 -27 0 EM75xr +30 1.000 W1VD FN31is 1148 > G.. > > >