Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mi05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mi05.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.163]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-b5294d1b0ba7388; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 05:21:27 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mi05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C46863800008B; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 05:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PXt8w-0005hG-HN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:20:30 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PXt8v-0005h2-T5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:20:29 +0000 Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.185]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PXt8v-0006G1-Pm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:20:29 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.211] by nm11.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2010 10:20:24 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.60] by tm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2010 10:20:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2010 10:20:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 111718.72944.bm@omp1029.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 40348 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Dec 2010 10:20:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1293618023; bh=TorvtmZR2AfwKCJuDOGTWQUOUVMjGoyJdU3z95Fptsg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R05VK+Df8Pan0x3g/BlaM3saYa40Wd9zzNN894G/r7T4Cw65CLt5tyUvTkfIdTCf96xfkgp10ZdrBNGY4JW/MyxZWlYZZQ/kqD4Tc5aobQNxQhx3edxriKF/BvmgfqP2OajzT9QPyMk9katiqOBmdKQz4DR7ZcG7RlWuvHqfgaQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BAqjLDvKphqzDHvIZCcUbqczqhUGMUrcwT66Q+4/dH8ZfaHqDeTfCZttAHq8hvImNdioyg3rETE6NsAbWAHgD4yk3712RJdW8ymgvFasOPj1XWq6wfUn6ei9c4Z+YPS3oM8oBJ0AQG1IcBb9G+cKlQz+cgskoilIfapnT5lK3dw=; Message-ID: <898202.39746.qm@web28505.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: MJYd7wAVM1lQQBT2HYeBGMwk.xq1WfmHq7FO7rqUeq43PDO SvuPdxwAcxiBOdwZYTXSjZo1tIxZdRVAXI2EDWUxZmp89a9DrW4khYI8Bxqc idZrlip5BNo2ku2QMLnsACHj_9H9HfNr_GEmdDK_Rq8Ujw_0cYwq0J2hQsW. 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However it worked a treat for a while ! Whatever the problem it suddenly occurred . . . 73 Chris G3XIZ ________________________________ From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 29 December, 2010 10:14:10 Subject: Re: LF: VLF Loading Coil Problems - G3XIZ Not am expert on large coils Chris, but could it be the former material is= =20 lossy? 73s Roger G3XBM On 29 December 2010 08:26, Chris Osborn wrote: LF, > >Many thanks for all efforts, advice and suggestions from members of the= group. >I shall E-mail them personally within the next few days. > >I spent several hours yesterday re-winding a section of my VLF loading co= il. >There are abour 1200 turns of 0.2 mm wire which had to be hand wound at= a rate=20 >of 4 turns per minute (max). > >I was disappointed (to say the least) when the coil resonated at the corr= ect=20 >frequency but had a very low Q. >Either there's a short-circuit in the other section of the coil or I've= =20 >introduced a short into the newly re-wound part. >In any event I am QRT until I can sort the problem. > >I have social engagements today and will take another look at it tomorrow= . > >73 >Chris G3XIZ > > > > --=20 g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ www.g3xbm.co.uk www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 =20 --0-480803630-1293618023=:39746 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's varnished wooden supports with hexagonal end caps Roger.However it worked a treat for a while !
Whatever the problem it sudden= ly occurred . . .

73 Chris G3XIZ



From: Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Sent: Wed, 29 Dece= mber, 2010 10:14:10
Subject: Re: LF: VLF Loading Coil Problems - G3XIZ

Not am expe= rt on large coils Chris, but could it be the former material is lossy?

73s
Roger G3XBM
On 29 December 2010 08:26, Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk= > wrote:
LF,
Many thanks for all efforts, advice and suggestions from members of the gr= oup.
I shall E-mail them personally within the next few days.

I= spent several hours yesterday re-winding a section of my VLF loading coil= .
There are abour 1200 turns of  0.2 mm wire which had to be hand wound= at a rate of 4 turns per minute (max).

I was disappointed (to say= the least) when the coil resonated at the correct frequency but had a ver= y low Q.
Either there's a short-circuit in the other section of the coil or I've in= troduced a short into the newly re-wound part.
In any event I am QRT un= til I can sort the problem.

I have social engagements today and wil= l take another look at it tomorrow.

73
Chris G3XIZ






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