Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.26]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC031-a8db4cfa4e0032e; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:19:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9EDA8380000B4; Sat, 4 Dec 2010 09:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1POsww-0006g4-A3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:18:54 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1POswv-0006fv-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:18:53 +0000 Received: from nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1POsws-00048F-Mt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:18:53 +0000 Received: from [98.139.91.61] by nm23.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2010 14:18:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.35] by tm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2010 14:18:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2010 14:18:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 257951.88293.bm@omp1035.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 92633 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Dec 2010 14:18:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1291472322; bh=imoyjpKCUjlTqsnHMILGOtnkE1jSXD/bRY+LklHEgGs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PIHtT53ibunYWV7qODDuNkrv4gD0vl9NYXZANLSVFs+Ujx8IkmyzhxE4Y3S/2hQl3fIvzy3zx7SN9iBxdq1+hHM8/exx6Gf8srPxlbR0KwuhIMg3JbTcAuFiKQxI9HUUV7t7R/Qaak7/KUCJGwmHtG3tDI8Bmuhv/Fbl0/7s0s0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HmsH13rFwd91rN61+1YH/Y6NKsqmtINet9I+X8WfsNF23eNWVxJgzhnV+ngtSxaNUK48j7JElbn+fc3D9FvYCtEEBPIWP237rzmHtp/gJ6uc2328bKzoepvkcbTrqoWnYka3JqrIkfxD7ZEBDOpnjQ95oAbU7zPYJVoHBYszDV8=; Message-ID: <743073.92615.qm@web111906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _X0uh9AVM1nlwnPujw48VeGsegKAckEpVD1eOxzAPCLlz6O HxAU_dAfoJfikFE8O..aSalMXIqj1BMT8gYc9U.qsayKfkSRJG1x_i.P6uC_ QiUPq.m4fEdgHUx4edNzNEwX0ADInACd9zdrzJ8zbbhmQSQRoJntRtgnW4pK ysE5IY1CKX6riz9oGOTsM_mzewQiLHyR02PLHyd7aVFDfjYcru_oM4Bg4lY7 h.dsdrwo21Kubn9z1QBRTt6F4ig426tFGBG1VQu.1yaD0lKMyqB6vMkiaZIs aYBA2R4BncpPkSM6gQxA- Received: from [87.7.29.221] by web111906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 06:18:42 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <20101204110539.21640@gmx.net> <1291465596.1941.9.camel@gerhard-desktop> <4CFA35A2.5030803@online.fr> <8E279999662345BDA3D758BCF898F216@White> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 06:18:42 -0800 (PST) From: Daniele Tincani To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: 8970 in JN06ht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-41566564-1291472322=:92615" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601a4cfa4dfe43c4 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0-41566564-1291472322=:92615 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Chris, this is really a great result for you and Stefan :-= ) Cheers D. ________________________________ From: Chris Gomoiu To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 2:37:21 PM Subject: Re: VLF: 8970 in JN06ht Hello Markus, You may have solved the puzzle already, thanks! To the naked eye it looks= like=20 the pattern is there. I'm recording a wav file of Stefan's experiment, hop= e to=20 find a way to further process it but I do need help for this.=20 Propagation seems to go down now, studying the MSKs signal levels for many= days=20 now, looks like the best time to receive Stefan is 10-12UTC. Nonetheless,= I'm=20 very happy for this and I do congratulate Stefan for his perseverance and= for=20 showing us all what can be achieved at this frequencies with amateur radio= means=20 only. Hope he's taking well care of himself in the forest cold out there. Back to watching the grabber now and hopefully, decode the "special" messa= ge=20 he's currently transmitting :-)) A very exiting day! 73s Chris 4X1RF =A0 On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Markus Vester wrote= : Hi Chris, there is indeed also a hint of the=A06.47 kHz=A0transmission. At= tached is=20 a clip from your grabber, with an=A0inset from=A0a Heidelberg=A0screenshot= at same=20 scale. You can clearly make out your rows of=A0bright pixels above the das= h and=20 the "R". >=A0 >Congratulations, this is excellent work! >=A0 >73, Markus (DF6NM) > > >From: Chris Gomoiu=20 >Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 1:45 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >Subject: Re: VLF: 8970 in JN06ht > > >Hello Gerhard, VLF, > >Yes, definitely a signal here and quite sterong also, simply unbelievable= ! >I think I may have seen also a trace of Stefan's 6470Hz transmission but= very,=20 >very weak. Further post-processing must be applied to maybe reveal the po= ssible=20 >signal. > >Very exiting!!! > >73s all, > >Chris 4X1RF >VLF grabber: http://qsl.net/4x1rf/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm > > > >On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:35 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9r=E9 (F1AFJ)" =20 >wrote: > >Hello Stefan , LF/VLF , >> >>Good copy in JN06ht =A0! but many QRM today ! >> >>73 Jean-Pierre f1afj >> >>Le 04/12/2010 13:26, Gerhard Hickl a =E9crit : >> >>Hello Markus ! >>> >>>Yes, it is Ossi but he now went down for 100mHz. >>> >>>I just saw Stefans trace also on the 4X grabber !!!!! >>> >>>Could you tell him? >>> >>>73 >>>OE3GHB >>>Gerhard >>> >>> >>> >>>Am Samstag, den 04.12.2010, 13:14 +0100 schrieb Markus Vester: >>> >>>Even before Stefan started on 8970.0, there seemed to be a weak trace >>>>on the OE3GHB grabber >>>>http://members.aon.at/grabber/VLF/index.html >>>> >>>>Possibly another transmission from OE5ODL? There's a fat trace on >>>>Ossi's grabber >>>>http://www.langwelle.at/ >>>> >>>>I hope this is not creating confusion. >>>> >>>>Best 73 and good luck, >>>>Markus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From: Guido Barzen >>>>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:05 PM >>>>To: Rsgb Lf >>>>Subject: LF: 6470 transmitting R >>>> >>>> >>>>Stefan has started sending an R. Low tone- high tone - low tone. >>>> >>>>After the R he will extend the antenna from 200 to 300 mtrs. 10 >>>>minutes later he will transmit on 8970 Hz. We will report the >>>>beginning of that transmission. >>>> >>>>Guido >>>>DF9PW >>>> >> >> >> >> > =20 --0-41566564-1291472322=:92615 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations Chris, this is really a great result for you= and Stefan :-)
Cheers
D.
From: Chris Gomoiu <chr= isgomy@gmail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sen= t: Sat, December 4, 2010 2:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: VLF: 8970 in JN06ht

Hello Markus,

You may have solved the puzzle already= , thanks! To the naked eye it looks like the pattern is there. I'm recordi= ng a wav file of Stefan's experiment, hope to find a way to further proces= s it but I do need help for this.

Propagation seems to go down now= , studying the MSKs signal levels for many days now, looks like the best= time to receive Stefan is 10-12UTC. Nonetheless, I'm very happy for this= and I do congratulate Stefan for his perseverance and for showing us all= what can be achieved at this frequencies with amateur radio means only.= Hope he's taking well care of himself in the forest cold out there.
Back to watching the grabber now and hopefully, decode the "special" mes= sage he's currently transmitting :-))

A very exiting day!

73= s
Chris 4X1RF



 

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com= > wrote:
Hi Chris, there is indeed also a hint of= the 6.47 kHz transmission. Attached is a clip from your grabber= , with an inset from a Heidelberg screenshot at same scale.= You can clearly make out your rows of bright pixels above the dash= and the "R".
 
Congratulations, this is excellent work!<= /FONT>
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: VLF: 8970 in JN06ht

Hello Gerhard, VLF,

Yes, definitely a signal here an= d quite sterong also, simply unbelievable!
I think I may have seen also= a trace of Stefan's 6470Hz transmission but very, very weak. Further post= -processing must be applied to maybe reveal the possible signal.

Ve= ry exiting!!!

73s all,

Chris 4X1RF
VLF grabber: http://qs= l.net/4x1rf/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm


On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:35 PM, "Jean-Pierre M=E9= r=E9 (F1AFJ)" <jpm= .f1afj@online.fr> wrote:
Hello Stefan , LF/V= LF ,

Good copy in JN06ht  ! but many QRM today !

73 Jea= n-Pierre f1afj

Le 04/12/2010 13:26, Gerhard Hickl a =E9crit :
Hello Markus !
<= BR>Yes, it is Ossi but he now went down for 100mHz.

I just saw Stef= ans trace also on the 4X grabber !!!!!

Could you tell him?

7= 3
OE3GHB
Gerhard



Am Samstag, den 04.12.2010, 13:14 +0= 100 schrieb Markus Vester:
Even before Stefan= started on 8970.0, there seemed to be a weak trace
on the OE3GHB grabb= er
http://members.aon.at/grabber/VLF/index.html

Possibly another= transmission from OE5ODL? There's a fat trace on
Ossi's grabber
htt= p://www.langwelle.at/

I hope this is not creating confusion.
Best 73 and good luck,
Markus



From: Guido Barzen
Sen= t: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:05 PM
To: Rsgb Lf
Subject: LF: 647= 0 transmitting R


Stefan has started sending an R. Low tone- hig= h tone - low tone.

After the R he will extend the antenna from 200= to 300 mtrs. 10
minutes later he will transmit on 8970 Hz. We will rep= ort the
beginning of that transmission.

Guido
DF9PW






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