Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj03.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-86074d1894fa155; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:30:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id ACE2A38000132; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PXD8X-0002N9-2i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:29:17 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PXD8W-0002N0-E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:29:16 +0000 Received: from nm17.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.191]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PXD8W-0000zw-An for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:29:16 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.182] by nm17.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2010 13:29:10 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.179] by tm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2010 13:29:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2010 13:29:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 9673.46884.bm@omp1020.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 85388 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Dec 2010 13:29:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1293456549; bh=5qHQP1snFHD8vaZr1Mc2I3AjQm3Xm9Py3CMaf9p/HyQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pdFPrjUIdeW9WAdBCOVYxqCTt3oOXxdnQwATnp5wzX0hZC+Z9qF4W22Q13PmIR89EA+M+eyKQ5IvVm9xh2wkhKEvC91CQITkxWmuX/BjCmeqmqMR64T49fonorw+ODskcma/XNXGy//Wawt4CzI/DIq5TP92l4tlA+JfTReG/ug= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KWA04WQbF0tLwphSX5yqMs3HtGZ3LVPtwgpks4DiZ2HMZol5BK7SC/AU0noSfSM4mFFvn2TdhE2+BxTwp+927j8TKuLx38ZKTYStw/VAk5qc5uuTT6MVf3onuPPsjkbd2wfXzd49rbqW+j1TYHqy9WpG7DhvAAZgumUhugBQAXQ=; Message-ID: <727958.85140.qm@web28503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3qGTGGUVM1l42xuFbiZfk5_GVLdsqdt.e30gQM7DXeL5ebc iZiVcwhMln6iHR_nHYrMWAst0TbBgfH9ZlEOZDNQBY3pYdetLh4fIguMc3B3 FK1GJCoV2eXe4dn2XEVXvy1aIWjoIfV3IoHpqNvbYB.Xxq9dNbGL8EbdxPU9 5xleADTFTRr75y8qfsxQ.5T2Xx3mqE_zAXe2Dvg6YfQSuzoMZTkQPGsjnmeH G5EUt7N_pi1SeQk60XzST1L_bddjLToKmJIf04BXWgaV0h3jJuzFLQfw- Received: from [81.97.191.183] by web28503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:29:09 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <77525.18216.qm@web28511.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <470957.28626.qm@web28506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:29:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Osborn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: VLF - G3XIZ - QRT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1409148984-1293456549=:85140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d276.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a64d1894f01b10 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror --0-1409148984-1293456549=:85140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF, My loading coil gave out at 12.05Z The hot melt glue used to hold the fine wires in place had become disbonde= d with=20 the constant low temperatures. Some windings had shifted and must have shorted through to other turns as= the=20 coil is now resonant about 1 kHz higher. I've removed the loading coil to the garage and will unwind some of the tu= rns=20 and then rewind, this time varnishing them in place. Andy's screen shot looks promising and with a longer QRSS we may be in wit= h a=20 chance. Thanks for all your patience; I am aware that progress is painfully slow. 73 Chris G3XIZ ________________________________ From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, 27 December, 2010 13:10:25 Subject: Re: LF: VLF - G3XIZ - QRT Unfortunately taking that screen grab stopped teh SDR-IQ and I didn't noti= ce for=20 a while. Anyway, after eventually restarting there is not even the fainte= st=20 indication of a line at the appropriate spot, which does suggest a possibi= lity=20 your QRSS 3600 signal was detected.=20 =20 Look forward to your next transmission - with slower dot period please. =20 Andy www.g4jnt.com =20 =20 On 27 December 2010 12:28, Andy Talbot wrote: At what time did you turn off? >=20 >Take a look at http://www.g4jnt.com/DownLoad/XIZ_1.jpg where there is ju= st the=20 >faintest line at the right frequency - looking in a bandwidth of 0.05Hz. >=20 >(The other point labelled is wher ei inject a frequency 10Hz higher at th= e start=20 >to check frequency cal) >=20 >If it is genuine, and not just a spuron, then QRSS 60 would probably show= =20 >results. >=20 >Its still running to see if that just-possible line has now clearly gone. >=20 >Andy >www.g4jnt.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > > >=20 >On 27 December 2010 12:20, Chris Osborn wrote: > >Thanks for your efforts chaps. >> >>I had definite QRSS-3 confirmation from Dennis M0JXM at 1.5 km but Pete= M0FMT at=20 >>11 km >>had no copy. >> >>I have developed an intermittent short-circuit problem with the loading= coil and=20 >>will QRT now. >> >>I'll notify via the reflector when transmitting again. >> >>73 Chris XIZ >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: James Moritz >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Sent: Mon, 27 December, 2010 11:44:17 >>Subject: LF: Re: VLF - G3XIZ >> >>Dear Chris, LF Group, >> >>The VLF RX has been running since 1130 - Nothing seen yet. >> >>Cheers, Jim Moritz >>73 de M0BMU >> >> >> >> > =20 --0-1409148984-1293456549=:85140 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF,

My loading coil gave out at 12.05Z

The hot mel= t glue used to hold the fine wires in place had become disbonded with the= constant low temperatures.
Some windings had shifted and must have sho= rted through to other turns as the coil is now resonant about 1 kHz higher= .

I've removed the loading coil to the garage and will unwind some= of the turns and then rewind, this time varnishing them in place.

= Andy's screen shot looks promising and with a longer QRSS we may be in wit= h a chance.

Thanks for all your patience; I am aware that progress= is painfully slow.

73
Chris G3XIZ



From: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com><= br>To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org
Sent: Mon,= 27 December, 2010 13:10:25
Subje= ct: Re: LF: VLF - G3XIZ - QRT

Unfortunately= taking that screen grab stopped teh SDR-IQ and I didn't notice for a whil= e.  Anyway, after eventually restarting there is not even the faintes= t indication of a line at the appropriate spot, which does suggest a possi= bility your QRSS 3600 signal  was detected.
 
Look forward to your next transmission - with slower dot period pleas= e.
 
Andy
 


 
On 27 December 2010 12:28, Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.c= om> wrote:
At what time  did you turn off?
 
 
(The other point labelled is wher ei inject a frequency 10Hz higher= at the start to check frequency cal)
 
If it is genuine, and not just a spuron, then QRSS 60 would probably= show results.
 
Its still running to see if that just-possible line has now clearly= gone.
 
Andy
 
 
 


 
On 27 December 2010 12:20, Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk= > wrote:
Thanks for your efforts chaps.

I had definite QRSS-3 confirmat= ion from Dennis M0JXM at 1.5 km but Pete M0FMT at 11 km
had no copy.
I have developed an intermittent short-circuit problem with the loadi= ng coil and will QRT now.

I'll notify via the reflector when transmitting again.

73 Chris= XIZ


<= br>
<= font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">
From: James Moritz <james.moritz@btop= enworld.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Sent: Mon, 27 December,= 2010 11:44:17
Subject: LF: Re: VLF - G3XIZ

Dear Chris, LF Group,

The VLF= RX has been running since 1130 - Nothing seen yet.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU






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