Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.10]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC073-a97d4d1e1f99103; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:23:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C8DB0380000A9; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PYjcS-0005aX-6J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:22:28 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PYjcR-0005aO-OL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:22:27 +0000 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PYjcP-0008F8-7G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:22:27 +0000 Received: by wwb39 with SMTP id 39so12220839wwb.28 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:22:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:message-id:cc :x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=E1mTNDeh6KXzKOMngVnwWHrOlV248gcvrexNuqmJO1Q=; b=IlsQSY3LJl1ihiFIOX1Wf0RQhHik6XuGMh4haN8RNRwnX4WF0/BCXz3UavSiu7h5X8 wUCOGIhDTIMXwOA9QExaKmTP9VP5j/HD4JqLfgTIrvm5tCFIobc/XX1EGKJyfnZqiuU3 iewG+p4JuPK8Fhzji9rO+v5sCcn6lyZvEccB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=sGPm8VoQ0nUmzO1MIZAAtF9Qj5AxifIOEL3TCbiNWaJ41aSlMgkB/eORSs3PBydoe+ lvPHNSuwdIULB+DjLw9JXss5x7l0lKI/83Gl2STl5BQ5i7nW3Gb8zmrDPy4qixzIMs7E /jReZeeFVZ6zXS4b1So/nFjH3SXfIm9adYFJs= Received: by 10.216.168.67 with SMTP id j45mr20782105wel.101.1293819739555; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (cpc3-cmbg14-0-0-cust445.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com [213.106.93.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x3sm8404135wes.46.2010.12.31.10.22.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:22:18 -0800 (PST) References: <11250.89514.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4D1DC897.2060606@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <76636.6973.qm@web28508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1567AC3A96624647ADC1F52EF1A1E625@JimPC> <732174.92691.qm@web28506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <6DEB3BAD63314CE598337148AF10CAE0@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <6DEB3BAD63314CE598337148AF10CAE0@JimPC> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Message-Id: <6FF03593-9C77-4457-B506-F03ABCFE9FFE@gmail.com> Cc: "" X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) From: Roger Lapthorn Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:23:08 +0000 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: LF: VLF - G3XIZ X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m287.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410a4d1e1f9751b8 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 Congratulations Chris! I will have to add this new UK VLF record to my sub= -9kHz webpage. If Jim can copy then I should be able to as well with a bet= ter set-up. So pleased for you. Brilliant. 73s Roger G3XBM Sent from my iPod Touch 4g On 31 Dec 2010, at 17:45, "James Moritz" wr= ote: > Dear Chris, LF Group, >=20 > The signal disappeared some time around 1520utc - the complete trace is= shown in the attachment. >=20 > I made an estimate of the field strength of your signal by injecting a= test signal at a known EMF into the loop antenna, and comparing with the= level of your signal. The received FS at the strongest point (around 1330= utc) worked out to be 1.8uV/m. Taking the distance between our locations= as 37km, your ERP would have been 87uW. The SNR at best was around 15dB,= making the noise level 0.32uV/m in the FFT noise bandwidth of 2.1mHz, or= a noise density of 7uV/m per sqrt(Hz) >=20 > Assuming a 50m vertical wire (heff ~ 25m), Rrad of your antenna at 8.97= kHz would be 880micro-ohms. Assuming 2.62dB directivity for an electricall= y short monopole compared to a dipole, and Iant of 200mA, the calculated= value of ERP would then be 64uW. So there is reasonable agreement between= these two calculations, the difference only being 1.3dB. >=20 > Thanks for the tests, >=20 > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU=20 >