Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dk12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dk12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.180.16]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5ef74d1dc8d6188; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:13:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 12AC9380000FE; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PYdpq-0000nP-Ce for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:11:54 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PYdpp-0000nG-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:11:53 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PYdpo-0005zS-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:11:53 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oBVCBo2P015395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:11:51 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBVCBoiu027074 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:11:50 +0100 Received: from [147.142.13.46] (vpn513-046.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.13.46]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id oBVCBnZc017925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:11:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4D1DC897.2060606@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:12:07 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <11250.89514.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <11250.89514.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: VLF - G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010209020901060109090808" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4104d1dc8ce133b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010209020901060109090808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, This sounds good. Trying in 600 is a good starting point and a 50m vertical is fine too. How big are the balloons? Do you use helium or hydrogen? ;-) Using 0.2mm diameter wire may cause some partial discharges ("sparking"). This is causing resistive losses and lower the ERP. Thus it is better to use a bigger wire, maybe 0,5mm. But then the weight could become a problem. Anyway, its sound like the best system you run on VLF so far. When running 0.15 A into a 50m vertical at 8970 Hz you should get about 9 kV rms. Sadly i am not near my grabber PC in Heidelberg and cannot move the window to your frequency but before there will be a reception in Germany there will be a reception in UK at farer distances what will be satisfying for you i assume ;-) Just like in my tests your personal ODX should rise in "small" steps since this is causing the most fun :-) 73 and good luck! Stefan/DK7FC Am 31.12.2010 12:38, schrieb Chris Osborn: > The balloons are still holding up. > > I'm transmitting 'XIZ' at QRSS600 > QRG: 8.971 846 kHz > The aerial current is down for some reason although the system's resonant. > > 73 > Chris G3XIZ > --------------010209020901060109090808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris,

This sounds good. Trying in 600 is a good starting point and a 50m vertical is fine too. How big are the balloons? Do you use helium or hydrogen? ;-)
Using 0.2mm diameter wire may cause some partial discharges ("sparking"). This is causing resistive losses and lower the ERP. Thus it is better to use a bigger wire, maybe 0,5mm. But then the weight could become a problem. Anyway, its sound like the best system you run on VLF so far.
When running 0.15 A into a 50m vertical at 8970 Hz you should get about 9 kV rms.

Sadly i am not near my grabber PC in Heidelberg and cannot move the window to your frequency but before there will be a reception in Germany there will be a reception in UK at farer distances what will be satisfying for you i assume ;-) Just like in my tests your personal ODX should rise in "small" steps since this is causing the most fun :-)

73 and good luck!

Stefan/DK7FC

Am 31.12.2010 12:38, schrieb Chris Osborn:
The balloons are still holding up.

I'm transmitting 'XIZ' at QRSS600
QRG: 8.971 846 kHz
The aerial current is down for some reason although the system's resonant.

73
Chris G3XIZ

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