Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.84]) by air-mc03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC031-a8db4d1c658a2a5; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 05:57:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F1E9C380000A9; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 05:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PYGBA-00061g-3v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:56:20 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PYGB9-00061X-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:56:19 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PYGB8-0005Wk-Lb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:56:19 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oBUAuH2d001995 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:56:17 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBUAuHF4007156 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:56:17 +0100 Received: from [147.142.8.30] (vpn508-030.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.8.30]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id oBUAuGSr022182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:56:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4D1C655E.2060301@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:56:30 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5010F8F002AC4F598A01115AA882C5CD@White> <4D17D186.9010504@gmail.com> <002401cba55d$47d7fcf0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <1EDC8A62B7414B45AA7725E81BB5111F@White> <4D191F8C.8060209@toya.net.pl> <4D1927DC.4080103@toya.net.pl> <4D1929D0.1050308@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4D1BC000.5070507@toya.net.pl> In-Reply-To: <4D1BC000.5070507@toya.net.pl> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id oBUAuH2d001995 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: "NM" on 136177.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: S X-AOL-REROUTE: YES x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40544d1c65886af1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Sorry Piotr, I just discovered your locator in the capture text field. 73, Stefan Am 30.12.2010 00:10, schrieb Piotr Mlynarski: > Stefan Sch=E4fer pisze: >> Hello Piotr, >> >> Nice to see that you enjoy the LF receptions :-) Generally its nice=20 >> to see new upcoming stations and a never ending interest in LF=20 >> operation. Soon, i will be one of the active TX stations with a fixed= =20 >> antenna too. I am looking forward to this :-) >> >> 73, Stefan > > Hi Stefan, > > First of all i thank you for your response due to my LF reception=20 > reports. Sure, it does not happen very often as i live in a really=20 > hostile environment as far as receiving long waves is concerned. > Nevertheless, i do enjoy every single lf reception even if it is a=20 > very 'short' distance ( according to 'standards' established by =20 > current T/A observations, transpacific qso etc...) so i was really=20 > happy to see for the first time Markus, > DF6NM and Gus, SM6BHZ tx'ing in the EU '177 window . I even managed= =20 > to set up LF grabber: http://www.toya.net.pl/~mlynarski/ which i=20 > will be switching on ocasionally or upon request. > you may regard this as a 'lower bound' of RX observations i.e. if=20 > something is seen on my grabber it means whole world is already=20 > watching this :) > ( btw , abt 21 utc.. Markus started TX'ing as i can see veeeery weak=20 > traces at 136.1775 kHz ) > the distance to Markus is abt 640 km , to Gus abt 817 km so when you=20 > will be qrv on 137 frm Heidelberg ( 801 km ) i am pretty sure that ,=20 > on statistical average, i will be in position to receive your signal,=20 > so likely, > we may have a x-band qso on 137 kHz - it would be a great pleasure for= =20 > me if this would have happened ! > > on VLF issues.... just today, Ken, M0KHW asked you abt possible=20 > replacement of bf862 jfet. i can confirm your answer that J310 also=20 > works in your VLF antenna - i have already built it and tested=20 > shortly during > Christmas Eve SAQ transmission - it worked but i had too much qrm so= =20 > i it had to be replaced by the loop which nulled some of the qrm. Of=20 > course, the placement of the antenna ( i.e. on my balkony) was=20 > absolutely inappropriate but i did it only for checking purposes=20 > etc... i have also used your idea of separating jfet along with 1M,=20 > 10M R's and 20nF cap into a waterproof box while placing the remaining= =20 > parts in a separate box and used abt 20 m of pair cable between. > i am preparing for your next kite vlf experiment but this time i will=20 > be /p station abt 10 km away frm my qth so i will try to check if=20 > the numerical model of earth-ionosphere waveguide works in practice ..= :) > i plan to use your VLF active antenna along with the SDR-IQ receiver . > At this moment i have completely no idea how to make 'the calibration'= =20 > of such setup in order to have the readouts comparable with some=20 > theoretical predictions > but the 'long winter evenings', hopefully, will provide some=20 > solutions :) > > Yours,=20 > Piotr, sq7mpj > qth: Lodz /jo91rs/ > > > >