Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da10.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da10.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.82]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD074-86af4d11e97e279; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:05:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da10.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E937A3800004A; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PVNQX-0003eC-QR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:04:17 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PVNQX-0003e3-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:04:17 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PVNQV-00021D-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:04:17 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBMC4BPn012176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:04:12 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBMC4Bxb008686 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:04:11 +0100 Received: from [147.142.8.58] (vpn508-058.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.8.58]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id oBMC4APG008958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:04:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4D11E945.40506@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:04:21 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Full ID Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020208000301080600090309" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40524d11e9771f26 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------020208000301080600090309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id oBMC4BPn012176 Chris, LF, I agree too. Not only those who don't carefully read the reflector but all those who=20 are not member of the reflector do not know what a single letter means.=20 So, if i would start to become QRV on LF and just see a single letter, i= =20 have no chance to find out who is the transmitting station. If a full Call is transmitted, like Markus does it, or at least the=20 suffix, like XGJ (or BHZ, WPF, WK...), i can try to find more=20 informations just by typing "XGJ 137 kHz" in google. If i so so in the=20 german google, i find this information: --------------------------------- /137K/ - [ Diese Seite =FCbersetzen=20 =20 ] 17th February 2009 from 00:15Z to 03:00Z: WD2XGJ sending " /XGJ XGJ/" in= =20 QRSS mode . wpf. 19th February 2009 from 01:30Z to 02:45Z: UA4WPF=20 sending "WPF" in *...* www.dp-engineering.it/*137*K.htm - Im Cache=20 ------------------------------------- So i would now know that it is WD2XGJ. Then i will find more=20 informations about the QTH and so on. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 22.12.2010 12:36, schrieb Chris: > Hi Mal, > I couldn't agree more, this is getting to be a right pain. > Chris, G4AYT. --------------020208000301080600090309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, LF,

I agree too.
Not only those who don't carefully read the reflector but all those who are not member of the reflector do not know what a single letter means. So, if i would start to become QRV on LF and just see a single letter, i have no chance to find out who is the transmitting station.
If a full Call is transmitted, like Markus does it, or at least the suffix, like XGJ (or BHZ, WPF, WK...), i can try to find more informations just by typing "XGJ 137 kHz" in google. If i so so in the german google, i find this information:
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137K

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17th February 2009 from 00:15Z to 03:00Z: WD2XGJ sending " XGJ XGJ" in QRSS mode . wpf. 19th February 2009 from 01:30Z to 02:45Z: UA4WPF sending "WPF" in ...
www.dp-engineering.it/137K.htm - Im Cache
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So i would now know that it is WD2XGJ. Then i will find more informations about the QTH and so on.


73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 22.12.2010 12:36, schrieb Chris:
Hi Mal,
I couldn't agree more, this is getting to be a right pain.
Chris, G4AYT.
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