Return-Path: Received: from imd-da09.r1000.mx.aol.com (imd-da09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.11.13]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-8bb14d1c7895d4; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:18:29 -0500 Received: from mtain-mi12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mi12.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.170]) by imd-da09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Inbound Mail Deferral) with ESMTP id 665BA70000091; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:18:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mi12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BB44B38000065; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:18:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PYHR9-0006q8-Sb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 12:16:55 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PYHR9-0006pz-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 12:16:55 +0000 Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PYHR6-00066c-H4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 12:16:54 +0000 Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2010 12:16:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.51] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2010 12:16:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2010 12:16:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 772984.29868.bm@omp1051.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 82006 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Dec 2010 12:16:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1293711404; bh=gC/7wlPlSTzAC8EZtzkg8Q3NOsZK29Iv2pSeeww3M2M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2HGYswKUZg6N43KdJPeSYBoa6qhKernA0T94Edyg+pPn0rfqhrvRb3z/7oyooU0KU7iTrR61tM5XRRG7ANn/I16Mclguxq2nbTilewdcoZVZQJOeTRRcYJFxV2Ndlg5q35S+I/fYxSS5KGVjRZB5xKV0f0Y521wmVWihUA8ADE8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PD5RzOdDbhwXWadQbXWwPucGpqT1jhDESJ4dWq8fgNZLsTLkpQpvhi2esD3WQT3NFbEr7VWqU090tx0Soaje9l/7hExOndryMIMyxJ2rKpNufA2CQXLOc/DhYehpIdcJDgLwz5F7YXdLJuyRJwc7UzErFBXXdiRXRY38K6jy9NE=; Message-ID: <266023.81878.qm@web111910.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AU02rFkVM1lITBrNbYKbIdu9pYZFxCWUhzdZUKCBsTxpbHL NkinWrQwa0fEt74Ev1e4B5bgaDgDu1ibjSEkYlmQRNaZzEMt_Vi4GY6TU_xI GAzuku1Q_V_gn3o9LYfWsr9IRnNwUzVKJ4JgSkXiAkmQCpK39aDAay9haFAh AUfjyOXezUK4zHeUHw5kU5dPL044Rr26esKtcrbtf4jov8Hi_Z7D8fvGcOWj fXrOFaZ0m3xfIIZtRaWA1kM8GFiIG9EUlImGD9ppOCmQo.cu.k48anW0F9wH Bjo8iBIYb5rpnKqGTYEf6aJd3DwrsCnx50sM4m4Vzzf6yx6eEfA-- Received: from [87.11.205.246] by web111910.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 04:16:43 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <4D1B7B17.2040007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 04:16:43 -0800 (PST) From: Daniele Tincani To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC's VLF Active Antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-987887433-1293711403=:81878" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m225.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039400cded44d1c78834af4 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror --0-987887433-1293711403=:81878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ken, I bought the BF862's at RS Italy. The sell them in 10x=A0strips. May be yo= u could=20 try and see if RS UK have the same policy. Best regards Daniele ________________________________ From: Ken To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 11:24:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC's VLF Active Antenna Hi Stefan and all others. Thank you for your most useful replies, the reasons I asked this question= are as=20 follows, firstly I was hoping to construct one this weekend possibly from= =20 components in my stock, a quick search on Google=A0for UK suppliers came= up with=20 Farnell and RS, phoned Farnell and was informed yes I could purchase but= there=20 is a minimum=A0 order policy of =A320 which equates to about 50=A0 BF862s,= I assume=20 that RS is the same, I also looked on Ebay non were found. If anyone knows= of a=20 UK supplier where I could purchase say 10 ff I would be grateful. =A0 73s Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 >From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:16 PM >Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC's VLF Active Antenna > >Hi Ken,=20 > >I have not tested other JFETs so far. Is it just because of the SMD housi= ng? I=20 >don't use a SMD PCB but a "free air" soldering. So if this is the problem= , just=20 >solder the FETs legs directly on the next part, e.g. solder the drain dir= ectly=20 >on the 390 Ohm resistor. Attached you find a picture that shows how my cu= rrent=20 >used VLF grabber antenna looks inside. Don't be shocked ;-) > >If you anyway want an alternative, the J310 or the (2SK170) should be pos= sible.=20 >There are some parameters like the noise and the gain and the input capac= itance=20 >which are affecting the performance but this is all not so critical on VL= F. > >73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > >Am 29.12.2010 17:58, schrieb Ken:=20 >Stefan. >>Could you please recommend an equivalent to to BF862 which is not Surfac= e Mount=20 >>for use in this circuit. >>73s >>Ken >>M0KHW =20 --0-987887433-1293711403=:81878 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Ken,
I bought the BF862's at RS Italy. The sell them in 10x strips.= May be you could try and see if RS UK have the same policy.
Best regards
Daniele
 
=

From: Ken <ken.h.wright= @btinternet.com>
To:= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent= : Thu, December 30, 2010 11:24:00 AM
Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC's VLF Active Antenna

Hi Stefan and all others.
Thank you for your most useful replies,= the reasons I asked this question are as follows, firstly I was hoping to= construct one this weekend possibly from components in my stock, a quick= search on Google for UK suppliers came up with Farnell and RS, phone= d Farnell and was informed yes I could purchase but there is a minimum&nbs= p; order policy of =A320 which equates to about 50  BF862s, I assume= that RS is the same, I also looked on Ebay non were found. If anyone know= s of a UK supplier where I could purchase say 10 ff I would be grateful.
 
73s
Ken
M0KHW
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010= 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC's VLF Active= Antenna

Hi Ken,

I have not tested other JFETs so far. Is it= just because of the SMD housing? I don't use a SMD PCB but a "free air"= soldering. So if this is the problem, just solder the FETs legs directly= on the next part, e.g. solder the drain directly on the 390 Ohm resistor.= Attached you find a picture that shows how my current used VLF grabber an= tenna looks inside. Don't be shocked ;-)

If you anyway want an alte= rnative, the J310 or the (2SK170) should be possible. There are som= e parameters like the noise and the gain and the input capacitance which= are affecting the performance but this is all not so critical on VLF.
=
73, Stefan/DK7FC



Am 29.12.2010 17:58, schrieb Ken:=20
Stefan.
Could you please recommend an equivalent= to to BF862 which is not Surface Mount for use in this circuit.
73s
Ken
M0KHW
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