Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.207]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA052-b5254cfe5b9416f; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:06:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8A28B380000B7; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 11:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PQ02U-0004Vv-Ti for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:05:14 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PQ02U-0004Vm-Fg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:05:14 +0000 Received: from warsl404pip3.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email.aon.at) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PQ02R-0006hf-Rt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:05:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 21253 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2010 16:05:05 -0000 Received: from 188-23-71-5.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO [192.168.1.101]) ([188.23.71.5]) (envelope-sender ) by smarthub96.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Dec 2010 16:05:04 -0000 From: Gerhard Hickl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001601cb9617$35c861d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <34B6B123BCCD45749F47DE8CDEF8225A@ns94d01ae4d850> <4CFE043E.30609@online.fr> , <896D62DB781D4F0CA8CC2DB3479399A3@ns94d01ae4d850> <1285386885.3721767.1291717992842.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb079> <4CFE1E26.1030903@kpnmail.nl> <1291728984.1600.15.camel@gerhard-desktop> <001601cb9617$35c861d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 17:05:04 +0100 Message-ID: <1291737904.1637.15.camel@gerhard-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Searching for Power Supply 24V/10A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cf4cfe5b915288 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal, Rik! I'm aware, that usual ATX power supplies only deliver high current on the +12V supply, whereas the -12V supply is rated relatively low. And yes Mal, you're right: The +5V output usually delivers the highest current. The hint I gave, is only valid if you've got TWO power supplies, delivering a sufficient current (>10A) at the positive 12V-Voltage. Then you can connect them in series. Mal: I'm with you.....I also prefer power supplies with a lot of iron/copper instead of switch-mode technology because usually "old-fashioned" power supplies radiate much less QRM especially at MF to VLF....but sometimes it's a matter of costs. Copper is expensive nowadays. 73 OE3GHB Gerhard Am Dienstag, den 07.12.2010, 14:01 +0000 schrieb mal hamilton: > Gerhard > It depends how much I(current you need) some only give about 1amp at 12v > whereas at 5v you get several amps. > also > you do not need a regulated psu for the PA just a good transformer capab= le > of delivering the amps you need and plenty of C for smoothing. > I do not use regulated psu's on any of my class D or E amplifiers, but= I > have plenty of C > mal/g3kev >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerhard Hickl" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Searching for Power Supply 24V/10A >=20 >=20 > > Hello Horst! > > > > The cheapest way is to obtain 2 computer-power supplies from the > > junk-yard (=3D for free). Then you have to open both, disconnect the > > negative supply from earth-potential (but of course NOT disconnecting > > the earth from chassis!!!) and connect the 12V supplies in series. > > > > This is simple and cheap! > > > > 73 > > OE3GHB > > Gerhard > > > > Am Dienstag, den 07.12.2010, 12:44 +0100 schrieb pa3abk: > > > I'm using a Conrad PSU 24VDC @ 10.5A EA-PS 524-11-T from EA - German > > > technology made in China ;-) > > > Best.-Nr.: 510120 - 62 [Teilenummer: 35 320 133] > > > > > > Didn't find any spurious yet of MF and HF although using open feede= rs. > > > There is also a sensor available to eliminate the voltage drop over= the > > > cables. > > > It comes with mounting brackets. > > > A 48VDC version is available. > > > Just check Conrad.de for details. > > > > > > It's also possible to use the cheaper "mousetrap" PSU's, but as QRM= and > > > noise is not acceptable I choose for this one. > > > The few euro's more doesn't justify the irritation and trouble to > > > eliminate the QRM. > > > > > > Initally I had the TX with unstabilized PSU, because Class E final= is > > > calculated with a certain voltage and associated L/C result was rath= er > > > irratic. > > > This PSU gave me a stable PA 24VDC/5,6A in and over 100W out. > > > Jan/pa3abk > > > > > > > > > Op 7-12-2010 11:33, Horst St=C3=B6cker schreef: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am looking for a power supply 24V/10A. Swiching power supply wou= ld > > > > be the best choice to me. > > > > I got a new PA unit for my beacon DI2AN, but without power supply. > > > > Power can also be higher (up to 48V). > > > > vy73 Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20