Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mk11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mk11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.97.143]) by air-di07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDI073-ead04d11f03c220; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:34:04 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 374B438000159; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PVNqn-0003v4-Oo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:31:25 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PVNqn-0003uv-8Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:31:25 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PVNql-0002HD-7o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:31:25 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoJAJB+EU1cEYDC/2dsb2JhbACIJI1YjhlzwwCFSQSOOw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,212,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="336690333" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.17.128.194]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2010 12:31:17 +0000 Message-ID: <006201cba1d4$1d74be80$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <59B697FF-96A4-4ACD-BDDE-FDD7C29D34CE@numeo.fr> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:31:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Full ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d618f4d11efdc6384 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none John A couple of points firstly callsign sent at normal speed CW cannot be read by some who are CW illiterate self confessed. secondly. The purpose of sending QRS in the first place is because normal CW cannot be copied due to poor propagation or the station is running insufficient power for the intended path/distance to be covered. The only solution is to send the full callsign at all times as used to be the case until recently in both normal CW and QRS regardless of speed. and as you point out there could be a licence infringement like unattended Beacon acty. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rabson" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: Re: LF: Full ID For very slow QRSS, surely you can send a full ID at normal speed just before the QRSS transmission? You may have to anyway for licence reasons. John F5VLF