Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mg09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mg09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.209]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-5eb54ce84b803; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:28:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AD2723800008F; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PJvtU-0002f5-87 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:26:52 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PJvtT-0002ew-R6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:26:51 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PJvtR-0002tn-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:26:51 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CBD7B8047 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:26:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n4.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.14]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E9A31E702 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:26:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.14]) with mapi; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:26:42 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:26:41 +0100 Thread-Topic: LF: 500kHz WSPR Thread-Index: AcuI/4tKUFOuF/VDRm+wx/8MBRvYiAAAaVxw Message-ID: References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500kHz WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d14ce84b7e2bd1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Graham, the QRM at the bottom end of the band does seemd too much harm to WSPR sig= nals, some nights ago I had good copies of WD2XSH despite ithis QRM.=20 The broadband transmission on 500kHz makes the noise level (at the bottom= end) rising to S4 (it is about S1 at the top end), PA0A is booming S9++= . 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens Graham [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Verzonden: zaterdag 20 november 2010 23:06 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 500kHz WSPR Nothing compared to the 'Fog from Frog' covering that end of the band ....? wspr never was any use on 500 due to long tx times and high local ground wave propagation , someone should take a look at the 5 meg system and take note , one short pulse , job done .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:45 PM To: Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR > > Some time ago some USA WSPR TX stations moved from 503.9kHz on 501.1kHz= to > avoid RX blocking of local WSPR RX station., This allowed both USA > stations (listening on 503.9) and European stations (listening on 501.1= ) > to copy WSPR DX without RX blocking by local TX stations . > But I noticed that in the following time more and more USA WSPR RX > stations moved down to 501.1kHz too. And as a result some (at least one) > European WSPR TX station moved down to 501.1kHz too (to be copied by the > USA WSPR RX stations that moved down) and is now blocking the Europeans > listening here. > So it seems that the RX blocking problem is back :-( > I guess this was not the goal ... > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >