Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mg01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mg01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.201]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF072-5efb4cd6aa733c0; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:32:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BC2BB38000098; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PF5L2-0004wv-Jc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 13:31:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PF5L2-0004wm-4N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 13:31:16 +0000 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PF5L0-0004fT-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 13:31:16 +0000 Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so4947839wwf.28 for ; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 05:31:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mef1IirRd9c55/+zfmmmC/NJMy/fFVbaeRmAtBlLvSY=; b=bS4IaWjcS2Voi/H2HFYpsYPxJGg7+A+tkUM5dCu/+TjcM4DQNmwGu+BdEV4qqGwIhJ TQxHxE6Urlby2a1ttCb9GDBKT3FZbi6UoAzIkm2bnLNXyjr7a9vNzRzigCpyLjFK3TXG L9HYY3cPeilnx5ByTWUHmw8xkzkfIBJL1++iU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vr1UMhZvP9wBFuq5+lJ2/JWhF5Z8KHIPxQt7lMVycWJy/GWO2/hTR9kV+ltAnfAiFT rIOoknvE08J90nhwflS69PoSKm0yqCrKKQEJE3I00OBDF7jHONKDrFFWqxGdrez9yXKD /q//0fWUozeNnpJ6ruqCOEWX5QqdJ7v/i6UXE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.231.82 with SMTP id k60mr3201068weq.88.1289136668484; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 05:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.221.152 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 05:31:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <003b01cb7d10$b3554610$19ffd230$@com> References: <0A4299B81A1F4A4A936D253AF4EFC75D@AGB> <003b01cb7d10$b3554610$19ffd230$@com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:31:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: IMO SYNOPTIC was Re: LF: The Wideband Noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m228.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60c94cd6aa715281 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Terry, Is it possible to get a copy of the whole ITU Part 5B report? --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Terry GW0EZY wrote: > I guess these tests relate to a proposed new system being discussed in= ITU > Working Party 5B: > > PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO PRELIMINARY DRAFT NEW > REPORT ITU-R M.[500 kHz] > Utilization of the 495-505 kHz band by the maritime mobile > service for the digital broadcasting (from shore-to-ships) > of information related to safety and security > > The draft new report has contributions from France and USA. Some extract= s > from the documents: > > This preliminary draft Report provides information on a digital broadcas= ting > system working in the 500 kHz band. This system is intended to be used= to > broadcast from shore to ships information related to navigational and > meteorological warnings, urgent information and other information relate= d to > safety and security. The system will utilize the band 495-505 kHz and ha= ve > the same coverage area as the current NAVTEX system operating at 490 kHz= and > 518 kHz. New digital technology provides a greatly improved data through= put > from that provided by the current NAVTEX system. It also provides protec= tion > to the incumbent NAVTEX system. > > This system will operate in a manner similar to the current NAVTEX syste= m. > The coast stations will be spaced along the coast approximately [500] > nautical miles apart. All the transmitters on a coast will share the 10= kHz > channel by transmitting in a specific time slot. An example of time slot > allocations for a network of 500 kHz broadcast transmitters for the Atla= ntic > coast of Europe is based on 3-minute slots of a 60 minute cycle. There= is > also discussion on using 495-500 kHz and 500 - 505 kHz as two slots for= a > "permanent mode" > > The radiated power from the regional coast station transmitter should be > what is sufficient to cover the intended service area of that coast stat= ion. > The power would be decreased at night during periods of better r.f. > propagation. The estimated coverage area from shore is approximately 320 > nautical miles with a radiated power of 1 kW and 400 nautical miles with= a > radiated power of 5 kW. The modulation is of type OFDM with N-QAM. An > example of 64-QAM @ 47.4 kbps.system has a data rate of 100 bit/second= with > a 300 Hz channel. This system would have a data rate of up to 47 400 > bits/second with a 10 kHz channel. > > A transmitter site in France is mentioned in the report: Pointe de Corse= n > coordinates: 48.414444 N, 4.794444 W. Google Earth shows some sort of > installation there. > > 73 Terry GW0EZY > > >