Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.16]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC083-a98d4cdfbaab2ec; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 05:32:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2724C38000090; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 05:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PHZqw-000210-97 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:30:30 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PHZqv-00020r-Jh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:30:29 +0000 Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PHZqt-00035c-Eg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:30:29 +0000 Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oAEAULN5001391 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 05:30:21 -0500 Received: from White (nrbg-4d075c85.pool.mediaWays.net [77.7.92.133]) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 8A338E0000AA for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 05:30:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <66F8CECD4B354C5AA7B08F237E2577AB@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <4CDEC5B8.17075.79A05A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <4CDF089E.4090604@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:30:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: XDV QRSS60 137k Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CB83EF.5AD03CD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60104cdfbaa93140 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CB83EF.5AD03CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF, again, I would very much favour to stay with the separation of transat= lantic slots, ie. around 137.777 kHz for West-to-East and around 136.3= 20 for East-to-West.=20 On LF, the problem is not only related to a lack of dynamic range in= the receiver backend. Here in Central Europe, DCF39 keying sidebands= spill out a lot of in-band energy, which can only be effectively remo= ved by blanking. These periodic cutouts then modulate onto all in-band= signals, creating a set of nasty 0.1 Hz spaced sidelines around stron= g (but otherwise clean) amateur signals.=20 Kind regards, Markus=20 From: Hartmut Wolff=20 Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:52 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: XDV QRSS60 137k In the past EU QRSS beacons were transmitting in the 137.32 range. Did= this changed? I think I missed something. --=20 73 Hartmut www.h-wolff.de Locator: JO52hp ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CB83EF.5AD03CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear LF,

again, I would very much favour to st= ay with the=20 separation of transatlantic slots, ie. around 137.777 kHz for West-to-East and around 136.320 fo= r East-to-West.=20

On LF, the problem is not only&n= bsp;related to=20 a lack of dynamic range in the receiver backend. Here= in Central=20 Europe, DCF39 keying sidebands spill out a lot of in-band energy, whic= h can only=20 be effectively removed by blanking. These periodic cutouts then=20 modulate onto all in-band signals, creating a set of nasty= 0.1 Hz=20 spaced sidelines around strong (but otherwise clean) amateur sign= als.=20

Kind regards,

Markus

From: Hartmut Wolff

Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:52 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20

Subject: Re: LF: XDV QRSS60 137k

In the past EU=20 QRSS beacons were transmitting in the 137.32 range. Did this changed?= I think I=20 missed something.

--
73
Hartmut
www.h-wolff.de
Locator:=20 JO52hp

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