Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.144]) by air-di04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDI041-eac24ce3bc4c37; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 06:28:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8136738000090; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 06:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PIg9B-0004nO-4R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:25:53 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PIg9A-0004nE-E0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:25:52 +0000 Received: from relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net ([217.69.40.75] helo=relay03.mail.uk1.eechost.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PIg98-0006Ao-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:25:52 +0000 Received: from [88.151.27.235] (helo=[192.168.1.107]) by relay03.mail.uk1.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1PIg8w-0005fc-Uq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:25:39 +0000 Message-ID: <4CE3BBB5.3050305@o2.ie> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:25:41 +0000 From: Tony User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4CDEC5B8.17075.79A05A@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <4CDF089E.4090604@gmx.de> <4CDFBCBE.5787.60D7DE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <2BE70532063C4C12A0E3AD8515E27D57@White> <002d01cb83f5$f4842c00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <007301cb8405$5dc7a8e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4CE00B43.6070706@o2.ie> <20101116221102.02753be7@opc1> In-Reply-To: <20101116221102.02753be7@opc1> X-Auth-Info: 3810@permanet.ie (plain) X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Eu QRSS freq.... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010706020607050303000408" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60904ce3bc4a05bd X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010706020607050303000408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John. Thanks for your support and encouragement, plus you are not the only one to appeal to me not to give up. Rest assured I _haven't_ given up entirely, but I have certainly regained a lot of my original enthusiasm thanks to people like you. I have the whole winter to build and experiment, which I will do, and hopefully get some RF airborne soon. It will be 137 KHz though as 500 KHz here in Ireland needs a NOV at the moment and the main requirement to get one is experience of other LF/MF bands (and it is also expensive in fees) and the lowest band I regularly work is 10 metres. Thanks again Tony, EI8JK, IO51dn. On 16/11/2010 22:11, John GM4SLV wrote: > Tony, > > Please reconsider trying again on MF. There is much scope for > experimenting and everything you learn is personal to you. You don't > have to stroke the ego of those who (think they) know everything and > (think they) have done everything. > > I've recently been trying some real low power WSPR (milliwatt ERP over > a range of almost 2000km), plus 100mW ERP to the USA as well as "proper" > CW QSOs with OK/PA/G/SM/LA. > > My antenna is 8m high, with 4 sloping guy wires as extra capacity. > Very small, as these things go. > > I draw my own conclusions from what I do, what succeeds and what > doesn't. This is the point of experimenting. The purpose isn't really > to have lots of QSOs and repeating ad-nauseum "it is ah-raining-not" - > it's to enjoy yourself, think of some new scheme/test/theory, try it > out, think about the results and continue the process. > > Go on, give it a a go > > And as for wire - the copper kind works okay - hi! > > John > GM4SLV > Shetland Is > > > --------------010706020607050303000408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John.

Thanks for your support and encouragement, plus you are not the only one to appeal to me not to give up.
Rest assured I haven't given up entirely, but I have certainly regained a lot of my original enthusiasm thanks to people like you.
I have the whole winter to build and experiment, which I will do, and hopefully get some RF airborne soon.

It will be 137 KHz though as 500 KHz here in Ireland needs a NOV at the moment and the main requirement to get one is experience of other LF/MF bands (and it is also expensive in fees) and the lowest band I regularly work is 10 metres.

Thanks again
Tony, EI8JK, IO51dn.


On 16/11/2010 22:11, John GM4SLV wrote:
Tony,

Please reconsider trying again on MF. There is much scope for
experimenting and everything you learn is personal to you. You don't
have to stroke the ego of those who (think they) know everything and
(think they) have done everything.

I've recently been trying some real low power WSPR (milliwatt ERP over
a range of almost 2000km), plus 100mW ERP to the USA as well as "proper"
CW QSOs with OK/PA/G/SM/LA. 

My antenna is 8m high, with 4 sloping guy wires as extra capacity.
Very small, as these things go. 

I draw my own conclusions from what I do, what succeeds and what
doesn't. This is the point of experimenting. The purpose isn't really
to have lots of QSOs and repeating ad-nauseum "it is ah-raining-not" -
it's to enjoy yourself, think of some new scheme/test/theory, try it
out, think about the results and continue the process.

Go on, give it a a go

And as for wire - the copper kind works okay - hi!

John
GM4SLV
Shetland Is




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