Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.17]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF093-8bfb4cd5486f199; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 08:22:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 72C9D3800018F; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 08:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PEhkv-0000fp-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:20:25 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PEhku-0000fg-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:20:24 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PEhks-0000gm-SS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:20:24 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oA6CKKdx031517 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:20:21 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oA6CKLWU002804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:20:21 +0100 Received: from [129.206.196.106] (vpn106a.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.196.106]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id oA6CJiUB009106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:19:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4CD54820.5030804@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 13:20:48 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1289035430.5455.9.camel@gerhard-desktop> In-Reply-To: <1289035430.5455.9.camel@gerhard-desktop> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: OE5ODL on VLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60114cd5486d4ea5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wow! Congratulations to this successful start up on VLF! If i understand it correctly you have used the fence as the antenna, so a kind of earth antenna or ground dipole? Have you measured antenna currents or so? :-) Will Ossi use his LF TX antenna for VLF too? :-) It's very pleasing to see this band is coming slowly alive :-) 73 and good luck! Stefan/DK7FC Am 06.11.2010 10:23, schrieb Gerhard Hickl: > Dear group! > > After weeks of testing and playing around with different kind of > equipment and antennas, Ossi OE5ODL has managed to transmit a signal on > VLF which is received by his grabber www.langwelle.at > > It all started when we connected an car audio amplifier over a > toroid-transformer to two big fences out in the wood some weeks ago. > The purpose just was to see if we could transmit anything with this kind > of equipment. We archived about 100W of input power but nearly no signal > was radiated. > > Since this time, Ossi has constantly improved his setup and yesterday > for the first time saw his signal on his grabber about 10km away from > his home QTH. > > He is using his LF-antenna (20m vertical) with additional top-loads to > get a capacity of about 1200pf. The antenna is matched with some > different coils in series and for sure there is still a lot room for > improvements on the TX as well as on the RX setup. The power amplifier > is a car-audio equipment, antenna input is up to 250W. > > I think this is the first noticeable signal on VLF radiated by an > amateur in OE... > > Congrats to Ossi > > 73 > OE3GHB > Gerhard > > > > > >