Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.218]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD033-86594cd1c280229; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:13:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3469B38001961; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 16:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PDjh2-0003sM-NM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:12:24 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PDjh2-0003sD-Ay for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:12:24 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PDjh1-0001dv-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:12:24 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oA3KBf8Q017879 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:11:41 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oA3KCMNa001932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:12:22 +0100 Received: from [129.206.196.132] (vpn132a.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.196.132]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id oA3KBiKQ002178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:11:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4CD1C235.3080102@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:12:37 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4CD1BD56.4030803@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4CD1C0EE.4010209@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <4CD1C0EE.4010209@charter.net> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id oA3KBf8Q017879 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: VLF: strange propagation effects on VLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40da4cd1c27e7ce6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Wow, thanks John, I have seen the effect accidentally ;-) Interesting to see the time difference between Germany and the Israel=20 Grabber by 4X1RF :-) 73, Stefan Am 03.11.2010 21:07, schrieb John Andrews: > Stefan, > > There was a C4-level solar flare at 1220 UTC from an active region=20 > behind the Sun's limb. Others noted the event at VLF. See: > http://www.spaceweather.com/ > > John, W1TAG > > On 11/3/2010 3:51 PM, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: >> VLF, >> >> There are strange propagation effects going on on VLF in the last days. >> I just observed that there was a significant _sudden_ rise/enhancement >> of all the signal levels arround 12:15 UTC. This effect is observed on= 3 >> spectrograms, DF6NM's 4X1RF's(some minutes later) and DK7FC's grabber= so >> it cannot be an accident. See the pictures. >> How can this be possible? It seems the autumn and winther period >> provides some interesting effects there which are not completely >> understood, at least by me ;-) >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>