Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.129]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC012-86254cf500ca3d9; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:48:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 506FF38000092; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PNQYf-0003Gh-7h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:47:49 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PNQYe-0003GY-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:47:48 +0000 Received: from web86704.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PNQYc-0005dJ-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:47:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 36999 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Nov 2010 13:47:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1291124860; bh=BlpcuCNUqbeQ8Xl8G/3kkoxwE/rrUjNQjzddTq3y5R0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rl242i9KJRMh6tH+YjK0y/8Zcg/70OoNM3xXIj670AcDaI9mkMBM4XV7veTZhIb717aAu+Jgw2WVmdrPCNWVeAKrdWJWXw6/0UHnW/H0NTyvmJlcRAu92sGpKHte5TnAhg0TNjR0yxH6PY8Z81sVr/iCWIdZN631mcsp6VQPQzk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FSbmFkz68pCYJzYTyRfB0d3Dn2fp4IpaebykJDUPA9lOIaV5LKILInA02b1eUEQjvtSvpT2fq334Nf/YLthR+Twx8vHK70ruzh+5pOJG4Go/b6w0U1kytjODnPQHRSMGFdP+TYcflycvvu4+vuf8pUwIV3Ig6cRB+grGt8Qbk5A=; Message-ID: <463030.36696.qm@web86704.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: MKFXRWEVM1kwuYrLQNr0m8wbKMtONTGdhE65XGjyjpI2N2U KV27njXy_qnBBeBVbFYJIl807GNQSjZyvG3UcNseS9FOMykcGd4y3OyLzGOL xLdDJJAZWJnoCKqq2hCuCz6A4Gfw5K0uEs27kHM25Ej1gGzcFM3_AhWzCbxw _A4LmR5LtVTG_F.36_msQre8zAknKaNLncItG9fUFwVwBJtnVfwZPf8m2srm EbgsrSGh5EllxelynRhWkI4asZJCGur0mNdth9wPnVJmUNMdkoeaPgMNSu3s 8I2eAK2PFU42FXmFBIswkH6asOeRIhPoq0d1M0C9.Au3kO_oqqNOBxyENdb6 ACfC221y0iqdvqAo- Received: from [86.164.130.31] by web86704.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:47:40 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <371151.97724.qm@web86705.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4CF01A14.4080504@toya.net.pl> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:47:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Dave Pick To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4CF01A14.4080504@toya.net.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Alpha transmissions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-721558627-1291124860=:36696" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: S X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d299.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass X-AOL-REROUTE: YES x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40814cf500c85c0e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 --0-721558627-1291124860=:36696 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Piotr and all Thanks for the replies, I'll pass them on. Dave. ________________________________ From: Piotr Mlynarski To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, 26 November, 2010 20:35:32 Subject: Re: LF: Alpha transmissions Dave Pick pisze: > Dear all. > I've had a query from an amateur who is studying the Russian Alpha=20 >transmissions. He would like to contact others who are using software to= get a=20 >positional fix by comparing extracting the phase information, or similar= =20 >experiments. >=20 > 73 > Dave > G3YXM=20 >=20 Hello Dave, although it is not a precise answer to the problem mentioned by the friend= of=20 yours i have just thought he could visit a webpage devoted to lightning = strike=20 radars (homebuilt): http://members.home.nl/fkooiman/lightning/ he should go to section 7 ( manual and documentation); find and read a sur= vey=20 article written by John Silver ( likely, UK based fellow as it follows fr= om his=20 e-mail address) Mr Silver mentions a software which is capable by special time synchroniza= tion=20 routines and triangulation methods to make a positional fix of the ligntn= ing=20 etc.. a link to software developers is also given so i think he might have got= a nice=20 start to his specific issues with alfa stns .. there is also a similar page: http://users.edpnet.be/DanielV37/Detecteur3/= =20 dealing with the same problems BTW .. those antennae and amplifiers built for lightning radar purposes ar= e=20 within the range of 10-11 kHz so "Dreamers" should also look into this at= least=20 to see really nice pictures of detected strikes.. i hope it will bring some help.. yours, Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz/jo91rs/ --0-721558627-1291124860=:36696 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Piotr and all

Thanks= for the replies, I'll pass them on.

Dave.
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From: Piotr Mlynarski <sq7mpj@toya.net.p= l>
To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Sent:= Friday, 26 November, 2010 20:35:32
Subject: Re: LF: Alpha transmissions

Dave Pick= pisze:
> Dear all.
> I've had a query from an amateur who is= studying the Russian Alpha transmissions. He would like to contact others who are using software to= get a positional fix by comparing extracting the phase information, or si= milar experiments.
>
> 73
> Dave
> G3YXM
>=
Hello Dave,
although it is not a precise answer to the problem men= tioned by the friend of yours i have just thought he could visit a webpage= devoted to lightning  strike radars (homebuilt):
http://members.ho= me.nl/fkooiman/lightning/
he should go to section 7 ( manual and do= cumentation); find and read a survey article written by John Silver ( like= ly,  UK based fellow as it follows from his e-mail address)
Mr Sil= ver mentions a software which is capable by special time synchronization= routines and triangulation methods to  make a positional fix of the= ligntning etc..
a link to software developers is also given so i think= he might have got a nice start to his specific issues with alfa stns ..
there is als= o a similar page: http://users.edpnet.be/DanielV37/Detecteur3/ = dealing with the same problems
BTW .. those antennae and amplifiers bu= ilt for lightning radar purposes are within the range of 10-11 kHz so "Dre= amers" should also look into this at least to see really nice pictures of= detected strikes..

i hope it will bring some help.. yours, = Piotr, sq7mpj

qth: Lodz/jo91rs/

   

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