Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dg11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dg11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.19]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-8b744ce51b092fd; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:24:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BCBEF380000FE; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PJ3WN-0000cW-Fe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:23:23 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PJ3WN-0000cM-23 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:23:23 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com ([209.85.216.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PJ3WK-0005Tu-4C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:23:22 +0000 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38so7399536qyk.16 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:23:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:date :x-mailer:mime-version:subject:x-priority:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=3v3KPmWJBnDHFdjyq8lCHFV1wLu+M3iF/4TxREoh1Dk=; b=biBIr36VwK+IrYBo/Ehn0SWWRc5FzBk+pD9ujxzEcSxoD6tT5txvilhfk4z9esYVur XdIj+soU2QGSehgXhyy0wS8V8miboKtNA1CW6S8zM1/TEI2h//2NKD6/DA6cmiWXguAN BkkdVCs0+zILVYxxsW3QBm5qPWrn0Tf/V5w2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:date:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:x-priority :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=g1p8r+HWHXjxgPFnpR2LKxiAJy4M+7izeMl+7Xfp1zI8ryqg2IzZvqVuN2ptqnpAl6 RLyu2DqncfFW1v2EX6x0s3teRfmVqUOjX4lzk3VxudAO4uJYVP/q97np2PYP4yhE3ose 4kmL4Lja7MQDwgWyJnhHoEENNu2iu+3emfYQ8= Received: by 10.224.173.133 with SMTP id p5mr549132qaz.249.1290082993780; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.google.com ([72.93.248.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nb14sm171225qcb.12.2010.11.18.04.23.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:23:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <183f2150-3a5f-4ed3-8dd7-cfd577e87e41@blur> From: "wd2xgj@gmail.com" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:23:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Motorola android mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 References: <003101cb85c2$18578690$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <6652CDA820D54BB3A8C83AD0C7BDC1F8@IBM7FFA209F07C> In-Reply-To: <6652CDA820D54BB3A8C83AD0C7BDC1F8@IBM7FFA209F07C> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: EX LF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Motorola-A-Mail-val4RQFHUOV4mIDd" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m286.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41134ce51b0515d9 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 --Motorola-A-Mail-val4RQFHUOV4mIDd Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I belive the corresponding limit in the U.S. is 1000 ft (300m). I wonder why tbe U.K. limit is so low? Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Chris To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 09:32:08 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: LF: EX LF HiGary, Does the same apply to balloons, i.e. 60m? Chris, G4AYT. Extract from CAA "AIR NAVIGATION: THE ORDER AND THE REGULATIONS" ***************************************************** Gliders, kites and parascending parachutes 164 (1) This article applies to gliders, kites and parascending parachutes within the United Kingdom. (2) Except with the permission of the CAA: (a) a glider or parascending parachute must not be launched by winch and cable or by ground tow to a height of more than 60 metres above ground level; (b) a kite must not be flown at a height of more than 30 metres above ground level within the aerodrome traffic zone of a notified aerodrome during the notified operating hours of that aerodrome; (c) a kite must not be flown at a height of more than 60 metres above ground level; and (d) a parascending parachute must not be launched by winch and cable or by ground tow within the aerodrome traffic zone of a notified aerodrome during the notified operating hours of that aerodrome. ***************************************************************** I think this answers the question. 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