Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj01.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-mf03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF031-8bd94cd5998d6f; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 14:08:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3BF03380000A3; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 14:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PEn9Z-0003Ey-Ey for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:06:13 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PEn9Z-0003Ep-1i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:06:13 +0000 Received: from warsl404pip6.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.89] helo=email.aon.at) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PEn9X-0002Q2-0g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:06:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 22277 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2010 18:05:53 -0000 Received: from 91-115-16-225.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO [192.168.1.101]) ([91.115.16.225]) (envelope-sender ) by smarthub96.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Nov 2010 18:05:52 -0000 From: Gerhard Hickl To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4CD54820.5030804@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <1289035430.5455.9.camel@gerhard-desktop> <4CD54820.5030804@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 19:05:51 +0100 Message-ID: <1289066751.1596.17.camel@gerhard-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OE5ODL on VLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a24cd5998b2d2d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Stefan! The fence was just used in the first attempt for transmitting and is meanwhile replaced by Ossi's LF-antenna. Still Ossi is using fences around his QTH but only for receiving and to check his own signal.=20 The big goal was to have a signal on his grabber so that he would be able to improve the set-up. Yesterday, for the first time after a lot of work, we saw a clear signal there. I built a MiniWhip for the receiving station but we had some problems with the audio driver on the netbook he is using. No matter what sample-rate was chosen in SpecLab, no signal above 8khz could be received. Meanwhile we replaced this audio-driver by a new version and now the netbook is working as expected, showing signals up to 24Khz. This is only a fraction of the problems we had to deal with. 73 OE3GHB Gerhard Am Samstag, den 06.11.2010, 13:20 +0100 schrieb Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer: > Wow! Congratulations to this successful start up on VLF! >=20 > If i understand it correctly you have used the fence as the antenna, so= =20 > a kind of earth antenna or ground dipole? Have you measured antenna=20 > currents or so? :-) >=20 > Will Ossi use his LF TX antenna for VLF too? :-) >=20 > It's very pleasing to see this band is coming slowly alive :-) >=20 > 73 and good luck! >=20 > Stefan/DK7FC >=20 >=20 >=20 > Am 06.11.2010 10:23, schrieb Gerhard Hickl: > > Dear group! > > > > After weeks of testing and playing around with different kind of > > equipment and antennas, Ossi OE5ODL has managed to transmit a signal= on > > VLF which is received by his grabber www.langwelle.at > > > > It all started when we connected an car audio amplifier over a > > toroid-transformer to two big fences out in the wood some weeks ago. > > The purpose just was to see if we could transmit anything with this ki= nd > > of equipment. We archived about 100W of input power but nearly no sign= al > > was radiated. > > > > Since this time, Ossi has constantly improved his setup and yesterday > > for the first time saw his signal on his grabber about 10km away from > > his home QTH. > > > > He is using his LF-antenna (20m vertical) with additional top-loads to > > get a capacity of about 1200pf. The antenna is matched with some > > different coils in series and for sure there is still a lot room for > > improvements on the TX as well as on the RX setup. The power amplifier > > is a car-audio equipment, antenna input is up to 250W. > > > > I think this is the first noticeable signal on VLF radiated by an > > amateur in OE... > > > > Congrats to Ossi > > > > 73 > > OE3GHB > > Gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > =20 >=20