Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.74]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME023-8ba64ca6903710; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:51:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 815B6380000AA; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 21:51:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P1rET-000848-O1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 02:49:49 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P1rEJ-00083z-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 02:49:39 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P1rEI-0001xy-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 02:49:40 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W30 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 1 Oct 2010 18:49:30 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [72.35.122.236] From: Laurence KL7UK To: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 17:49:30 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4CA5E86D.1070208@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4CA5E86D.1070208@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2010 01:49:30.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DB86360:01CB61D4] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fcc4e3e8-ba6c-4bdb-a17b-a07d77c7dbb4_" Subject: RE: VLF: DK7FC's 7th VLF kite experiment X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,WEIRD_PORT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604a4ca6903540fd X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_fcc4e3e8-ba6c-4bdb-a17b-a07d77c7dbb4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan - Ive got the Alaska VLF system online now and needs tweeking/cal= but I can see Alphas and most of the usual suspects - the path over the= Northern Auroral pole towards Europe is still rather "warm" and light but= getting better daily - The Rx is an SDR IQ and E/F probe up at 40ft - ne= xt to a quiet lake, in a glacial valley surrounded by mountains - I hope= to keep this optional system available when I go back to the works qth in= a few days back in Oklahoma-=20 =20 Cheers =20 Laurence KL 7 UK x KL1 X BY3A et al =20 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:55:57 +0200 From: schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; paul@abelian.netcom.co.uk; contact@vlf.i= t; Guido.Barzen@URANO.de; bernd.grupe@t-online.de Subject: VLF: DK7FC's 7th VLF kite experiment Dear LF/VLF, My next VLF kite experiment will be tomorrow, saturday, 2nd october :-) Af= ter my request to the german air traffic control i got a very kind telepho= ne call at 01:30 AM and later i got the permission to go up to 200 m above= ground. See attached mail if of interest for you. So, if there will be enough wind and no rain, i will try to become QRV at= arround 8 UTC.=20 Tomorrows program: - (after some resonating tests): Transmitting a short message on 8970 Hz,= mode: DFCW-600, hoping to be visible on several receivers in the EU regio= n and maybe Canada and USA (!?) - Transmitting a CW message (in 12 wpm and in 25 wpm), hoping to be audibl= e at Bernd/DF8ZR (16 km range) and my grabber (40 km) - Maybe trying a xband QSO 9kHz/144 MHz to DF8ZR - Transmitting a message on 6470 Hz, mode: DFCW-600, hoping to be visible= at many RX, especially Renato Romero who has set up a grabber page at htt= p://www.vlf.it/cumiana/livedata.html - Transmitting a 30 minute carrier on 8970 Hz which allows long time integ= ration. Paul Nicholson wants to try to record the VLF audio stream from Fl= orida and maybe extract my signal. - Being visible at PA3FWM at the university of Twente who set up a grabber= page at http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/grabber.html - Being visible at SQ5BPF and maybe a russian station?=20 - Being visible at Paul Nicholson and Markus/DF6NM, of course ;-) - Finally reaching the 1 A antenna current limit - and all i have forgotten I will record my signal of my grabber and will extract an audible signal,= if possible. This will be filtered, frequency shifted to 800 Hz and publi= shed here as a mp3 file. My grabber will show the 8970 Hz signal at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.d= e/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html The 6470 Hz will be visible at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_v= lf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html It is now on the Canadian and US RX stations to make possible what still= seems to be inpossible: A transatlantic transmission/reception. The first= time my signal can reach a 50 mW ERP limit (wind forecast announces stron= g wind, so a high kite angle, so a good efficiency!) on 8970 Hz. It is sti= ll not sure how the propagation behaves on this frequency at this time and= locations so we may see a surprise. Of course any report is very much app= reciated, no matter of what distance or country. Every clear reception abo= ve 859 km is a new world record by amateurs on VLF! So, hope the sun will shine at good wind conds and low QRN and high intere= st :-) Best 73, CU, Stefan/DK7FC PS: Markus/DF6NM, will you be on the phone again to make QSP? :-) --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:19:40 +0200 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de Subject: Antwort: Fwd: NOTAM_siehe Anlage anbei Sehr geehrter Herr Sch=E4fer,=20 das entsprechende NOTAM wurde ver=F6ffentlicht (die ver=F6ffentlichte Uhrz= eit wird dort in UTC / GMT angegeben - entspricht 0900 - 1800 Ortszeit)=20 Ihrem Vorhaben spricht unsererseits nichts mehr entgegen.=20 Viel Erfolg und mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen=20 Jochen Knoblauch CC/FB - M/BNL Besondere Nutzung Luftraum/ Special Use Airspace Milit=E4rische =DCbungen/Military Exercises DFS Center Langen Am DFS Campus 1 63225 Langen Tel. +49 (0) 6103/707 - 6287 Fax: 6205 Bw Netz 90 4223 774 email: BNL.Langen@dfs.de=20 Stefan Sch=E4fer =20 01.10.2010 09:02=20 An bnl.langen@dfs.de=20 Kopie Thema Fwd: NOTAM_siehe Anlage anbei=20 Sehr geehrter Herr Stumpe, Anbei alle Informationen zum gew=FCnschten Drachenaufstieg, geplant f=FCr= morgen, Samstag, den 2. Oktober 2010. Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Stefan Sch=E4fer -------- Original-Nachricht --------=20 Betreff:=20 NOTAM_siehe Anlage anbei=20 Datum:=20 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:49:31 +0200=20 Von:=20 Stefan Sch=E4fer =20 An:=20 NOTAM.office@dfs.de Bitte um Herausgabe einer NOTAM, Aufstieg eines Einleiner-Drachens=20 =20 Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Ich m=F6chte f=FCr Samstag, 2. Oktober 2010 einen Drachenaufstieg anmelden= und bitte um die Herausgabe einer NOTAM. Aufgrund er Windvorhersage ersch= eint dieser Tag f=FCr einen Aufstieg geeignet. Da der Termin nun weniger= als 48 Stunden (33 h) entfernt liegt, bitte ich um eine kurze R=FCckmeldu= ng ob ausnahmsweise noch eine Freigabe f=FCr die Aktion erteilt werden kan= n oder nicht.=20 Aufstiegsort, Koordinaten: Neutscher H=F6he (49=B046=9235.05=92=92N, 8=B04= 1=9256.74=92=92E)=20 Maximale Drachenh=F6he =FCber Grund: 200m=20 Uhrzeit: 9 Uhr bis 18 Uhr=20 Sollte das Experiment wegen Windausfall oder aus sonstigen Gr=FCnden ausfa= llen m=FCssen, benachrichtige ich die DFS telefonisch. Anbei meine Erlaubnis durch das RP Darmstadt. Viele Gr=FC=DFe,=20 Stefan Sch=E4fer =3D --_fcc4e3e8-ba6c-4bdb-a17b-a07d77c7dbb4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan - Ive got the Alaska VLF system online now and needs tweeking/cal= but I can see Alphas and most of the usual suspects - the path over the= Northern Auroral pole towards Europe is still rather "warm" and ligh= t but getting better daily - The Rx is an SDR IQ and E/F  probe= up at 40ft - next to a quiet lake, in a glacial valley surrounded by moun= tains - I hope to keep this optional system available when I go back to th= e works qth in a few days back in Oklahoma-
 
Cheers
 
 Laurence KL 7 UK  x  KL1 X  BY3A et al=
 
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:55:57 +0200
From: schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.= de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; paul@abelian.netcom.co.uk; contact= @vlf.it; Guido.Barzen@URANO.de; bernd.grupe@t-online.de
Subject: VLF:= DK7FC's 7th VLF kite experiment

Dear LF/VLF,

= My next VLF kite experiment will be tomorrow, saturday, 2nd octo= ber :-) After my request to the german air traffic control i got a ver= y kind telephone call at 01:30 AM and later i got the permission to go up= to 200 m above ground. See attached mail if of interest for you.

S= o, if there will be enough wind and no rain, i will try to become QRV= at arround  8 UTC.

Tomorrows program:

- (a= fter some resonating tests): Transmitting a short message on 8970 Hz,= mode: DFCW-600, hoping to be visible on several receivers in the EU= region and maybe Canada and USA (!?)
- Transmitting a CW message (in 12 wpm and in 25 wpm), hoping to be audible at Bernd/DF8ZR (16 km ra= nge) and my grabber (40 km)
- Maybe trying a xband QSO 9kHz/144 MHz= to DF8ZR
- Transmitting a message on 6470 Hz, mode: DFCW-600, hoping to be visible at many RX, especially Renato Romero who has set= up a grabber page at http://www.vlf.it/cumiana= /livedata.html
- Transmitting a 30 minute carrier on 8970 Hz= which allows long time integration. Paul Nicholson wants to try to record= the VLF audio stream from Florida and maybe extract my signal.

-= Being visible at PA3FWM at the university of Twente who set up a grabber= page at http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:89= 01/grabber.html
- Being visible at SQ5BPF and maybe a russian stati= on?
- Being visible at Paul Nicholson and Markus/DF6NM, of course ;-)<= BR>- Finally reaching the 1 A antenna current limit
- and all i= have forgotten

I will record my signal of my grabber and will extr= act an audible signal, if possible. This will be filtered, frequency shift= ed to 800 Hz and published here as a mp3 file.

My grabber will show= the 8970 Hz signal at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html<= /A>
The 6470 Hz will be visible at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_= VLF_Grabber2.html

It is now on the Canadian and US RX stations= to make possible what still seems to be inpossible: A transatlantic trans= mission/reception. The first time my signal can reach a 50 mW ERP limit (w= ind forecast announces strong wind, so a high kite angle, so a good effici= ency!) on 8970 Hz. It is still not sure how the propagation behaves on thi= s frequency at this time and locations so we may see a surprise. Of course= any report is very much appreciated, no matter of what distance or countr= y. Every clear reception above 859 km is a new world record by amateurs on= VLF!

So, hope the sun will shine at good wind conds and low QRN an= d high interest :-)

Best 73, CU, Stefan/DK7FC

PS: Markus/DF6= NM, will you be on the phone again to make QSP? :-)




--F= orwarded Message Attachment--
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:19:40 +0200
F= rom: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
To: schaefer@iup.uni-heidelb= erg.de
Subject: Antwort: Fwd: NOTAM_siehe Anlage anbei

Sehr geehrter Herr Sch=E4fer,

das entsprechende NOTAM wurde ver=F6ffentlicht= (die ver=F6ffentlichte Uhrzeit wird dort in UTC / GMT angegeben - entspri= cht 0900 - 1800 Ortszeit)




Ihrem Vorhaben spricht unsererseits nichts mehr entgegen.

Viel Erfolg und mit freundlich= en Gr=FC=DFen

Jochen Knobl= auch
CC/FB - M/BNL
Besondere Nutzung Luftraum/ Special Use Airspace<= BR>Milit=E4rische =DCbungen/Military Exercises

DFS Center LangenAm DFS Campus 1
63225 Langen

Tel.   +49 (0) 6103/707 - &nb= sp;6287
Fax:                 &n= bsp;                    = 6205
Bw Netz 90 4223 774

email: BNL.Langen@dfs.de
=

Stefan Sch=E4fer <schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> 01.10.2010 09:02
An
 bnl.langen@dfs.de
Kopie

Thema
Fwd: NOTAM_siehe Anlage anbei=








Sehr geehrter Herr Stumpe,

Anbei alle Informatione= n zum gew=FCnschten Drachenaufstieg, geplant f=FCr morgen, Samstag, den 2.= Oktober 2010.

Viele Gr=FC=DFe,

Stefan Sch=E4fer

----= ---- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff:
NOTAM_siehe Anlage anbei
Datum:
Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:49:31 +0200
Von:
Stefan Sch=E4fer <schaefer@iup.uni-hei= delberg.de>
An:
= NOTAM.office@dfs.de



Bitte um Herausgabe einer NOTAM, Aufstieg eines Einleiner-= Drachens  
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

Ich m=F6cht= e f=FCr Samstag, 2. Oktober 2010 einen Drachenaufstieg anmelden und bitte= um die Herausgabe einer NOTAM. Aufgrund er Windvorhersage erscheint diese= r Tag f=FCr einen Aufstieg geeignet. Da der Termin nun weniger als 48= Stunden (33 h) entfernt liegt, bitte ich um eine kurze R=FCckmeldung= ob ausnahmsweise noch eine Freigabe f=FCr die Aktion erteilt werden kann= oder nicht.
Aufstiegsort, Koordinaten: Neutscher H=F6he (49=B046=9235.0= 5=92=92N, 8=B041=9256.74=92=92E)
Maximale Drachenh=F6he =FCber Grund: 200m
Uhrzeit: 9 Uhr bis 18 Uhr

Sollte das Experiment wegen Windausfall oder aus sonsti= gen Gr=FCnden ausfallen m=FCssen, benachrichtige ich die DFS telefonisch.<= BR>
Anbei meine Erlaubnis durch das RP Darmstadt.


Viele Gr= =FC=DFe,

Stefan Sch=E4fer


=3D --_fcc4e3e8-ba6c-4bdb-a17b-a07d77c7dbb4_--