Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.219]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-5eb64ccd3a5b272; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 05:43:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B6EDE3800010C; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 05:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PCUQg-0006rG-5A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:42:22 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PCUQf-0006r7-Jy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:42:21 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PCUQd-0003aW-0v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:42:21 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633C17B804D for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:42:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n4.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.14]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561C5F3862 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:42:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.14]) with mapi; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:42:11 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:42:10 +0100 Thread-Topic: LF: Re: SBL-3+ Thread-Index: Act4hnSF9jX5p1/5R/eAOQduuo7N5AAWK2Yn Message-ID: References: <4CCC8022.90003@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <004e01cb7883$96949580$4001a8c0@lark>,<4CCCA351.1070508@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4CCCA351.1070508@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: SBL-3+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60db4ccd3a5811b9 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Stefan, Alan, what about a CMOS analog switch mixer ? Cheap and easy to find. I used a 74HC4053 as mixer in my 3.5MHz to 500kHz transverter. Have a look at http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-41522/lfconv/lfconv.html (SM6LKM= ), wher Johan shows a LF to 4MHz converter with a 74HC4053 mixer. Just ada= pt the LO and output circuitery for LF output. 73, Rik ON7TD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens Stefan Sch=E4fer [schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de] Verzonden: zondag 31 oktober 2010 0:59 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: SBL-3+ Hi Alan, I want to try an alternative to the BF981 which runs in my current LF grabber RX. It downconverts 137 kHz to 12 kHz and feeds the soundcard with this 12 kHz signal. It is running not too bad but i have some problems with temperature drifting bandpass filters (since weeks) and have thrown them out of the Drain-to-Plus path. So, now the setup is running with a 2 stage RC LPF. I have had some problems with a to high 125 kHz level on the soundcard input and have applied a series LC circuit for 125 kHz now which reasonably solved the problem. But the LF noise is now just about 10 dB above the soundcard noise, in the afternoon. There is still a lack of sensitivity. This RX QTH should be very well for a grabber antenna but currently the setup is the problem. So i want to try something different, like a DBM. I am not an expert here and can/have to learn a lot, it seems ;-) 73, Stefan Am 31.10.2010 00:41, schrieb Alan Melia: > Hi Stefan why a difficult to get mixer?? the IF port on most DBMs is DC > coupled so feed the siganl in there and (i presume) mix up ?? Or is the > RF/LO response still too high on the easily available ones? > > Alan G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:29 PM > Subject: LF: SBL-3+ > > > >> Dear LF, >> >> I want to try a LF converter using this mixer. Does anybody know a >> (cheep!) distributor in Germany or EU for 1...3 pieces of it? I've just >> found one where it costs about 40 Euro and this is to much!! >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> >