Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.216]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA034-b5134cb456811c6; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:37:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1028E380000BF; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P5e50-0006zW-PW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:35:42 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P5e50-0006zN-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:35:42 +0100 Received: from nm1.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.218]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P5e50-0004bQ-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:35:42 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.182] by nm1.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2010 12:35:35 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.170] by tm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2010 12:35:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2010 12:35:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 114115.99198.bm@omp1011.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 95237 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Oct 2010 12:35:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1286886933; bh=zVMUwgluDWKFmMycz506UQnrpq0ENbLxq6P/zXjTkAs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ut+OlYAjwAIwkqxSDE9cYO0uh0YFpU9zGrrRxoC/jA1766ZijOFzHh2XWQj6ye4GkJBDs6LaoCd9Gf3O8N3giIrqUGvZ5FEmoamEFG4j4zKxDZfKnCoqsVA0cWJRaajIfwad1qhXPWb4PW9rqKiKr8RC1hPF8TCg1vZqX9Tdego= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=03FnzRyOj2mJcO3z5UQeN9x5CrdsKYhKLRini6jAR4+xjY+4z6fQU1XXZXEj5IlPLYc+n+LNYNs3Cr/WWRHwQ/3iTKJ49g9LEHL+1wlhRuAAu6qpKM0mi0c22KkGYSfYZprUv6kMN72awI1lG6Gqjy/moUOsyJs3h1sUuYQyqkY=; Message-ID: <962235.87850.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 30Vn_4cVM1nYfJ91it4AC4idfZC4C40l8nZxL3CIbSUMVm6 qHqIbDEBgyaUEkA2s2Jkz4rbtF4h.sJNaZSh12vosTkicheywkSYnC5jUfJ0 qmF46nXd_mmcILu6JiK5z3BfF9x2NB5h711tWBMzkomqJINyXCOubqpPa3Hb rE769flt33GtlaUKctqZB8QKm7VxR_xiDyc2eDmwYgVJ21qHS2Ruw1ehps9S rZAKP9l8gX4mG_wd_e1uALjW0od3nh26JzAJNNnwSiwAAlDr8AAqFClovAVl FkZmnSqYNC2KmgTvMNMBU6HM- Received: from [86.137.113.56] by web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:35:33 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.106.282862 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:35:33 +0100 (BST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4CB42BDE.5000604@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-142422156-1286886933=:87850" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m219.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d84cb4567f25ea X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0-142422156-1286886933=:87850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Johan =A0 Thank you for picking up on my mail. In fact it was sent to the LF reflect= or=A0in error. However in the mean time=A0I have sorted some of my problem= s out. I only have USB on this machine and use a converter to RS232=A0whic= h I some times have a problem with.=A0However I have communication with th= e PIC (Using Comm Pal) and it down loaded the original settings with 3333= 3333 in the tone call out. I have down loaded my tone symbols=A0from the= WSPR DOS version and organised them on a spread sheet so as to have a per= manent cross check. ComPal allows the import of files so I will modify you= r original file to suit my call etc and load it into the PIC. =A0 Question:-=A0=A01/ The QRA locator only allows IO91 but not the usual last= two letters can that be changed? Question:- =A02/ The symbols table=A0at T=A0can be entered with no gaps?= Or do in need to include=A0gaps at each 0,1,2,3, gap 1,2,n.? =A0 Yes I read about the one way down load but felt I needed to know what had= been entered=A0to give confidence setting the frequency off sets as I am= using an Xtal master oscillator not a DDS. =A0 Anyway many thanks for the input I will now pess on with the project. =A0 =A073 es GL petefmt I support www.NotSpotTelecom.Com your community Telco / ISP. --- On Tue, 12/10/10, Johan H. Bodin wrote: From: Johan H. Bodin Subject: Re: LF: WSPR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 12 October, 2010, 10:35 Hi Pete, an older version of WSPR was able to generate the data. I don't know if it= is still available but there is an alternative. You can use the following pro= gram from K1JT to generate the WSPR symbols: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSPRcode.exe Download the program, open a command prompt window, go to the directory containing wsprcode.exe and type: wsprcode "SM6LKM JO67 20" > symbols.txt Press enter. The output from wsprcode.exe will be saved in symbols.txt. Open this file= and look at the last table labeled "Channel symbols". This is the data you nee= d - the 162 WSPR symbols. This table should be identical to my example in the= file mjb002ug.pdf (I haven't checked). If it looks OK, just replace callsign,= locator and power with your own numbers. Write a new text file similar to my "Example download file" on page 6 in mjb002ug.pdf and replace my message (the table under command character T)= with your own 162 digit message from symbols.txt. The ugly "HyperTerminal" in window$ can be used to download the file into= the PIC. Set it to 9600 baud, 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit, no handshaki= ng and use "Send text file" to download the data. Please note that you must start= the download within 5 seconds after PIC reset / power-on (while the green LED= is still lit). If you don't have a 5V <-> RS232 converter to put between the PC and the= PIC, you can try a one-way download by connecting the PC's TX line to the GPS= input on the PIC board (the transistor will do the necessary logic inversion). However, you will get no confirmation of download success.. 73 Johan SM6LKM ---- M0FMT wrote 2010-10-11 13:45: > Hi Eddie >=A0=20 > Not seen the call lately hope all is well with you. I need some help ple= ase. >=A0=20 > I have built SM6LKM's VCXO directly keyed WSPR circuit MJB. >=A0=20 > The LEDs indicate on switch on and flash when triggered. However I canno= t > communicate using the RS232 connection. What software do I need to run= for this. > I have read all the references but no indication. I initially thought th= e DOS > version of WSPR would do it (it works fine as a decoder on the sound car= d) but > it doesn't. So I am at a lost to input my data Like TX field :- wspr Tx= 10.1386 > 10.140100 1 M0fmt io91 30. The PIC won't talk back to me with P,T,U,V,W,= X. >=A0=20 > What software do I need please? >=20 > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT >=20 > I support www.NotSpotTelecom.Com your community Telco / ISP. >=20 >=A0 =A0 =A0=20 >=20 >=20 =20 --0-142422156-1286886933=:87850 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Johan
 
Thank you for picking up on my mail. In fact it was sent to the LF reflector in error. However in the mean time&= nbsp;I have sorted some of my problems out. I only have USB on this machin= e and use a converter to RS232 which I some times have a problem with= . However I have communication with the PIC (Using Comm Pal) and it= down loaded the original settings with 3333 3333 in the tone call out. I= have down loaded my tone symbols from the WSPR DOS version and organ= ised them on a spread sheet so as to have a permanent cross= check. ComPal allows the import of files so I will modify your original= file to suit my call etc and load it into the PIC.
 
Question:-  1/ The QRA locator only allows IO9= 1 but not the usual last two letters can that be changed?
Question:-  2/ The symbols table at T can be entered= with no gaps? Or do in need to include gaps at each 0,1,2,3, gap 1,2= ,n.?
 
Yes I read about the one way down load but felt I needed to know what= had been entered to give confidence setting the frequency off sets= as I am using an Xtal master oscillator not a DDS.
 
Anyway many thanks for the input I will now pess on with the project.=
 
 73 es GL petefmt

I support www.NotSpotTelecom.Com your= community Telco / ISP.

--- On Tue, 12/10/10, Johan H. Bodin = <jh.bodin@telia.com> wrote:

From: Johan H. Bodin <jh.bodin@telia.com>= ;
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tu= esday, 12 October, 2010, 10:35

Hi Pete,

an older version of WSPR was able= to generate the data. I don't know if it is
still available but there= is an alternative. You can use the following program
from K1JT to gene= rate the WSPR symbols:

http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/= K1JT/WSPRcode.exe

Download the program, open a command prompt= window, go to the directory
containing wsprcode.exe and type:

w= sprcode "SM6LKM JO67 20" > symbols.txt

Press enter.

The= output from wsprcode.exe will be saved in symbols.txt. Open this file and=
look at the last table labeled "Channel symbols". This is the data you= need -
the 162 WSPR symbols. This table should be identical to my exam= ple in the file
mjb002ug.pdf (I haven't checked). If it looks OK, just= replace callsign, locator
and power with your own numbers.

Writ= e a new text file similar to my "Example download file" on page 6 in
mjb002ug.pdf and re= place my message (the table under command character T) with
your own 16= 2 digit message from symbols.txt.

The ugly "HyperTerminal" in windo= w$ can be used to download the file into the
PIC. Set it to 9600 baud,= 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit, no handshaking and
use "Send text= file" to download the data. Please note that you must start the
downlo= ad within 5 seconds after PIC reset / power-on (while the green LED is
= still lit).

If you don't have a 5V <-> RS232 converter to put= between the PC and the PIC,
you can try a one-way download by connecti= ng the PC's TX line to the GPS input
on the PIC board (the transistor= will do the necessary logic inversion).
However, you will get no confi= rmation of download success..

73
Johan SM6LKM

----
M0FMT wrote 2010-10-11 13:45:
> Hi Eddie
> 
> Not= seen the call lately hope all is well with you. I need some help please.
>&n= bsp;
> I have built SM6LKM's VCXO directly keyed WSPR circuit MJB.<= BR>> 
> The LEDs indicate on switch on and flash when trigg= ered. However I cannot
> communicate using the RS232 connection. Wha= t software do I need to run for this.
> I have read all the referenc= es but no indication. I initially thought the DOS
> version of WSPR= would do it (it works fine as a decoder on the sound card) but
> it= doesn't. So I am at a lost to input my data Like TX field :- wspr Tx 10.1= 386
> 10.140100 1 M0fmt io91 30. The PIC won't talk back to me with= P,T,U,V,W,X.
> 
> What software do I need please?
&g= t;
> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT
>
> I support www.NotSpotTele= com.Com your community Telco / ISP.
>
>     =
>
>


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