Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.135]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-b52a4ccd3d4f29e; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 05:56:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8FF3738000091; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 05:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PCUcl-0007Wj-NC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:54:51 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PCUcl-0007WY-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:54:51 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PCUck-0003ib-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:54:51 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o9V9sJu3003485 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:54:20 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o9V9snlE003989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:54:49 +0100 Received: from [147.142.8.87] (vpn508-087.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.8.87]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o9V9sCw1027137 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:54:12 +0100 Message-ID: <4CCD3CEA.5020200@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:54:50 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4CCC8022.90003@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <004e01cb7883$96949580$4001a8c0@lark>,<4CCCA351.1070508@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id o9V9sJu3003485 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Re: SBL-3+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40874ccd3d4d46ad X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Rik, Very interesting! Looks easy, almost perfect. But i don't know what is=20 the "best" solution now. It gets confusing the more solutions become=20 available. Probably each method can achieve optimal results if built=20 correctly. I think i will try a lot in the next days.. Tnx! 73, Stefan Am 31.10.2010 10:42, schrieb Rik Strobbe: > Hello Stefan, Alan, > > what about a CMOS analog switch mixer ? Cheap and easy to find. > I used a 74HC4053 as mixer in my 3.5MHz to 500kHz transverter. > Have a look at http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-41522/lfconv/lfconv.html (SM6L= KM), wher Johan shows a LF to 4MHz converter with a 74HC4053 mixer. Just= adapt the LO and output circuitery for LF output. > > 73, Rik ON7TD - OR7T > > ________________________________________ > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] namens Stefan Sch=E4fer [schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de] > Verzonden: zondag 31 oktober 2010 0:59 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: SBL-3+ > > Hi Alan, > > I want to try an alternative to the BF981 which runs in my current LF > grabber RX. It downconverts 137 kHz to 12 kHz and feeds the soundcard > with this 12 kHz signal. It is running not too bad but i have some > problems with temperature drifting bandpass filters (since weeks) and > have thrown them out of the Drain-to-Plus path. So, now the setup is > running with a 2 stage RC LPF. I have had some problems with a to high > 125 kHz level on the soundcard input and have applied a series LC > circuit for 125 kHz now which reasonably solved the problem. But the LF > noise is now just about 10 dB above the soundcard noise, in the > afternoon. There is still a lack of sensitivity. This RX QTH should be > very well for a grabber antenna but currently the setup is the problem. > So i want to try something different, like a DBM. I am not an expert > here and can/have to learn a lot, it seems ;-) > > 73, Stefan > > Am 31.10.2010 00:41, schrieb Alan Melia: > =20 >> Hi Stefan why a difficult to get mixer?? the IF port on most DBMs is DC >> coupled so feed the siganl in there and (i presume) mix up ?? Or is the >> RF/LO response still too high on the easily available ones? >> >> Alan G3NYK >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:29 PM >> Subject: LF: SBL-3+ >> >> >> >> =20 >>> Dear LF, >>> >>> I want to try a LF converter using this mixer. Does anybody know a >>> (cheep!) distributor in Germany or EU for 1...3 pieces of it? I've jus= t >>> found one where it costs about 40 Euro and this is to much!! >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> >>> =20 >> =20