Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.224]) by air-di06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDI064-eacd4caee5111f0; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 05:32:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8F62A38000088; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 05:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P49HC-000595-KA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:30:06 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P49HC-00058w-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:30:06 +0100 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P49HB-0005ar-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:30:06 +0100 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20101008092959.UPND7723.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:29:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.22.241.155]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20101008092957.GSQP1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:29:57 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:29:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4CAEF2A0.21204.540792E@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: References: <4CAE472A.1663.2A2B4AB@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DhNl2YeytwJssBBGe49HJX82LNDFEEVkpVB34RXKaPo= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cuv7ISXxju17keQD0isA:9 a=I9U81v66CoLxPYTK1xwA:7 a=Bdx93kRVwp6xC4vuLPbmIRpq_4IA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: G3XDV off Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40e04caee50f0d6c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none > Are you the originator of the saying "You're not a real LF > experimenter if you haven't had a fire"? I heard/saw this somewhere > and I'm trying to track down its origin! > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > Well, it is possible but I can't confirm it. I think many LF operators have had small fires because of the very high voltages (especially on the old 73kHz band) which often make conventional insulators into conductors, for example the plastic guttering on my conservatory. I even had a piece of perspex catch fire very spectacularly - and that had been salvaged from a commercial QRO LF station. It's probably corona discharge that starts the breakdown of the material. I believe the first to have a really good fire was Dave Pick, G3YXM, whose coil shed was destroyed some years ago. As for my 'fire' yesterday, I can't find any evidence of it this morning, so I presume the people next door had a bonfire or a kitchen accident. A false alarn, but well worth being cautious. Mike ====