Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.28]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-8bbb4cc3e514f9; Sun, 24 Oct 2010 03:49:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C2A2638000092; Sun, 24 Oct 2010 03:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P9vIc-0007OG-HH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:47:26 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P9vIb-0007O7-PR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:47:25 +0100 Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de ([217.72.192.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P9vIZ-0003Yr-AR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:47:25 +0100 Received: from mwmweb080 ( [172.20.18.98]) by fmmailgate05.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42E763412B9 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.76.60.32] by mwmweb080 with HTTP; Sun Oct 24 09:46:56 CEST 2010 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:46:56 +0200 (CEST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?"Horst_St=C3=B6cker"?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <1931372269.2637712.1287906416798.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb080> In-Reply-To: <424986.630.qm@web111901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4CC05B8F.2030406@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1237369649.1611432.1287678227104.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb077> <4CC070EA.30703@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4CC1C2EF.8080007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>, <757145.20787.qm@web111905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <979620351.2557914.1287853881158.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb077>, <424986.630.qm@web111901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Kxmlq5t3RLX/QZQLFROwA2rpL1VcFyiWDFyZxn3l7cMtuVjL5ARFu vNTCiop2qVaP+KWuo6G5der8Px9LVq0pEpVvxG9o7lGDKQP1fan5vA== X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG=0.512,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: here no results from DK7FC's 8th experiment Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2634973_1186514905.1287905526437" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MIME_HTML_ONLY, PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d411c4cc3e51237a5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------=_Part_2634973_1186514905.1287905526437 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-UI-ATTACHMENT-ID-POSTFIX: 034eba51-bb15-4640-939b-b132f44767f7 Hello Daniele,
the broadband capture is missing. In the attachm= ent I just found two usr files that I will try after receiving SAQ this mo= rning.
Possibly it's just one single noise source here at the QTH. I= know this problem at my preferred portable QTH for UHF: When I first trie= d to receive natural radio at this site some years ago there was more (aud= ible!) noise than here at home.
I tried almost any VLF dedicatet usr= file that I could find in SpecLab and here in the reflector. I had all al= phas well visible.
I bet it's a local noise problem that possibly can= t'be fixed.
The Mini Whip is a big step forward indeed comparing with= my T-Marconi fed directly into the soundcard, into my MV-62 selective lev= el meter and into my homebrew preamp with band pass.
I am looking forward to your broadband captur= e.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN

Von: "Daniele Tincani" <danieletincani@yahoo.com>
Ges= endet: 23.10.2010 19:37:32
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
Betreff: Re: VLF: here no results from DK7FC's 8th experimen= t

Hello Horst, I live in a very noisy sub-urban area too (in JN53EM).= Lots of power lines, a motorway, a railway and tens of small factories ar= e around here just within a few hundreds meters. I attach a broadband capt= ure I did some days ago over > 12 hours just to give you an idea of the= hum level at my QTH :-)
Nevertheless, I managed to have a fairly good reception of= first Stefan's 8970Hz tx today. For this reception I used a very simple-t= o-build loop design from Renato Romero and Marco Bruno (http://www.vlf.it/easyloop/_easyloop.ht= m). Please consider that my loop sits simply on my balcony on the 5th= floor of a 6-floors tall building, with a nicely open view towards the se= a, from south-west to north. It is only a few meters from home mains, PC,= TV, etc..
I think that some hum reduction (which happens in the morning),= great quality of Stefan's signal and digital processing in SpecLab all pl= ay a decisive role. For SpecLab, I attach here the USR files that I= used today for 8970 and 6470, they were kindly sent to me by Stefan and= I found there has been a great improvement in signal readability at 8970,= compared with my previous reception (during 7th experiment) in fairly sim= ilar conditions.
With my best whishes for a good reception on next trasmission ex= periment :-)
Best regards
Daniele
 

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From: Horst Stöcker= <horst.stoecker@web.de>
= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 7:11:21 PM
Subject:
VLF: here no results= from DK7FC's 8th experiment

Hello all, con= grats to Stefan and all who had success in receiving his signals.
I= had no success in receiving Stefans tests. This time I used a mini whip= with my IBM laptop soundcard. Normally this is a real step forward in my= RX setup for VLF. The one I got from Roloef (many thanks) is optimized fo= r VLF reception. Much better than any antenna I tested before. All three= Alphas are well vissible. But obviously the noise level is to high here= at my home QTH, indeed. I supposed that before. Now I know.
I do not= think that I can find a better position for the antenna. It's now about= 8 m above ground, mounted in a 2m PVC tube on an old chimney.
So I= can find just one conclusion: All of you who could reveive Stefans transm= issions must be living more or less on the countryside. Or should it be th= at I have the pity to live in such a noisy urban environment?
Next ti= me I will have to go to the countryside, too.
Looking forward to SAQ= tomorrow. I received SAQ many times and this time with the mini whip it= will be easyer then ever.
vy73 Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN
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