Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.86]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB012-a0784cbf060b44; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:08:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 03F5B380001EC; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P8aGI-0002Yp-3d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:07:30 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P8aGH-0002Yg-In for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:07:29 +0100 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P8aGF-0004ke-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:07:29 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQFADaivkxOk87J/2dsb2JhbACPeQOGSosUcb8mhUoEgVyMCYJS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.57,355,1283727600"; d="scan'208,217";a="465059824" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.147.206.201]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 20 Oct 2010 16:07:21 +0100 Message-ID: <002901cb7068$7c8fce20$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <367FDD82671449AEAB28C67EA989FE59@IBM7FFA209F07C><001201cb7038$ddc18d80$4001a8c0@lark><7383C2F394D24A61A4D04AD2516EC590@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:07:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Variometer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01CB7070.DE1187D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60564cbf06085f5b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CB7070.DE1187D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren Steve is not the only one to give up. In the early days I worked over= 30 countries on 137 Kcs CW and today there is only a couple of countr= ies active. What does that say for LF and even MF has not really taken off. Activ= ity seems to have fizzled out, those that have deserted LF can be hea= rd on 160 metres and other HF bands frequently DXING=20 G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Warren Ziegler=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Variometer I understand from his QRZ listing that Steve GW4ALG gave up amateur= radio completely, something about not liking contests etc. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ=20 WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Chris = wrote: Hi Alan, Yes, you're probably correct, but without knowing that 'detail' yo= u coud easily misunderstand what it is suggested that unit could do. Incidentally, it was GW4ALG, not 3. Steve says one of the reasons= he gave up on 136 was the 'first RSGB repeater on the band' and it at= tracting 'pirates'. I have never heard of an RSGB repeater on 136 and= think it a most unlikely band to interest pirates. Maybe I'm wrong,= I often am! Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: LF: Re: Variometer Hi Chris that unit looks rather like the pictures of Steve GW3AL= Gs variometer (others made similar units....the lego remote control= rings bells) which has featured in the LF Handbook and both editions= of LF Today. If so Steve used a modifieed KW1000 linear I believe which was= capable of putting out quite a lot of power. Steve ran a 20m vertical with= the top 10m supported by party ballooons when the wind was suitably low. If= it was put below his main fixed loading coil as an incremental inductor the= n it would not have had to suffer such high voltages as at the main coil to= p. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" To: "RSGB LF Group" Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:31 AM Subject: LF: Variometer Hi LF, Need a variometer? Take a look at Ebay item 120636022163. The cl= aim is this item can cope with 'over a kW of RF' and covers 136kHz - I must= say I have my doubts! At least you can have a laugh at the 'amature' spelli= ng and terminology throughout!! Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CB7070.DE1187D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Warren
Steve is not the only one to give up.= In the early=20 days I worked over 30 countries on 137 Kcs CW and today there is only= a couple=20 of countries active.
What  does that say for LF and= even MF has not=20 really taken off. Activity seems to have fizzled out,  those that= have=20 deserted LF can be heard on 160 metres and other HF bands frequently= DXING=20
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Warren= Ziegler=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 20,= 2010 2:59=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Vari= ometer

I understand from his QRZ listing that Steve GW4ALG= gave up=20 amateur radio completely, something about not liking contests etc.--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
            &nb= sp;  =20 WD2XGJ
               = =20 WD2XSH/23
               = =20 WE2XEB/2
               = =20 WE2XGR/1


On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Chris <c= .ashby435@btinternet.com>=20 wrote:
Hi=20 Alan,
Yes, you're probably correct, but without knowing that 'd= etail' you=20 coud easily misunderstand what it is suggested that unit could=20 do.
Incidentally, it was GW4ALG, not 3. Steve says one of the= reasons he=20 gave up on 136 was the 'first RSGB repeater on the band' and it at= tracting=20 'pirates'. I have never heard of an RSGB repeater on 136 and think= it a most=20 unlikely band to interest pirates. Maybe I'm wrong, I often am!Vy=20 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable.
----- Original Message -----= From: "Alan=20 Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
To: <rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday,=20 October 20, 2010 10:03 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Variometer

H= i=20 Chris that unit looks rather like the pictures of Steve=20 GW3ALGs
variometer (others made similar units....the lego rem= ote=20 control rings
bells) which has featured in  the LF Handb= ook and=20 both editions of LF Today.
If so Steve used a modifieed KW100= 0 linear I=20 believe which was capable of
putting out quite a lot of power= . Steve=20 ran a 20m vertical with the top 10m
supported by party balloo= ons when=20 the wind was suitably low. If it was put
below his main fixed= loading=20 coil as an incremental inductor then it would
not have had to= suffer=20 such high voltages as at the main coil top.

Alan G3NYK
-----=20 Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <c.ashby435@btint= ernet.com>
To: "RSGB LF Group"=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday,= =20 October 20, 2010 8:31 AM
Subject: LF: Variometer


H= i=20 LF,
Need a variometer? Take a look at Ebay item 120636022163.= The claim=20 is this
item can cope with 'over a kW of RF' and covers 136kH= z - I must=20 say I have
my doubts! At least you can have a laugh at the 'a= mature'=20 spelling and
terminology throughout!!
Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT,= =20 Whitstable, Kent.




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