Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me10.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me10.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.146]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA062-86164c82b7e914; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:19:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-me10.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C865F380000AE; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Os083-00041X-Q8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:18:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Os083-00041O-Em for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:18:27 +0100 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Os07y-0007Qy-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:18:27 +0100 Received: from mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.134]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o84LIJOn003180 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:18:19 -0400 Received: from Black (nrbg-4d072d1e.pool.mediaWays.net [77.7.45.30]) by mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 720E9E0000B5 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <6D33E6B7551E4D9C9429606C379E38F8@Black> <001901cb4c19$69a670c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <001901cb4c19$69a670c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 23:18:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: DK7FC.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60924c82b7e7254c X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Mal, perhaps too much wind... My experience with a helium balloon antenna was that it is nearly vertical only in absolute zero wind conditions, and starts to become awkward in a breeze of more than a couple of knots. On the other hand, a kite works best from ten knots up. On many days, neither option is usable. There is a hybrid design called a "Helikite", which claims to combine the virtues of both types, and is supposed to fly in all winds. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: DK7FC.. A small hot air balloon is a better bet than a wind dependent kite g3kev