Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.152]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA031-85e54ca1fcc3331; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:33:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B48F8380000F5; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P0bDo-0005l9-FO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:31:56 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P0bDe-0005kL-2Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:31:46 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P0bDb-0004mj-K7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:31:47 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016D851C005 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:30:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N1.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n1.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.11]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB33F3862 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:30:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N1.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.11]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:30:55 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:30:54 +0200 Thread-Topic: JA/VE7 QSO Completed - FINALLY! Thread-Index: ActfEuGlxZk/sM55QiKcj3+J1jEgdAABdxBv Message-ID: References: <4CA1EF7A.1000802@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4CA1EF7A.1000802@telus.net> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: RE: JA/VE7 QSO Completed - FINALLY! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40984ca1fcc1461c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Scott, congrats to both stations. As it is a rather northern path condx should even improve when nights beco= me longer and QRN mower 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens Scott Tilley [sthed475@telus.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 28 september 2010 15:36 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,= & UK) and MedFer bands Onderwerp: LF: JA/VE7 QSO Completed - FINALLY! Finally! After months of trying, our gear, conditions and most of all our XYL's patience all worked together to produce a QSO! JA7NI (DFCW30) and VE7TIL (DFCW60) completed a trans-pacific QSO on 2200m this morning a first between Canada and Japan. CN89dk to QM09fl is 7162km. Things started off with a surprise as NI copied TIL's beacon signal 30min before his sunrise. What followed was a 'quick' exchange of calls and NI's report was received by TIL. Then a very long and deep fade occurred. This happened before to us and we lost each other and an entire nights sleep...! But that taught us a lesson and we adapted to the deep fading on this path by creating a master slave relationship between the stations and using QSK to full effect. Master slave means the station that is expecting a reply simply waits until he hears it while the other station transmits until heard with pauses (QSK) to listen... NI waited patiently not knowing TIL had copied the calls and his report. Our procedure was for him to simply wait until he copied something... Three hours later RO appeared on NI's screen and during one of my crawls out of the bunk I saw a dot during a pause in transmission and stopped the transmitter. A few minutes later there was an R and TU but not in DFCW but rather QRSS as a malfunction at NI's end had him scrambling, but he recovered with grace and the QSO was in the bag... This QSO caps off months of work by both operators in improving their stations and beaconing on the path to learn its characteristics to make a QSO possible. What is clear to me is the trans-pacific path on 2200m is a very viable communication path for amateur experimentation. I'm sure time will demonstrate this further as procedures and equipment improve on both sides of the ocean. I would like to particularly thank Yas, JA8SCD (the Tokyo Grabber) for his help and translation services. Without him this would have been much more difficult. More details including station equipment to follow in the next few days as I get caught up on my sleep and family life :-) 73 Scott VE7TIL CN89dk http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/