Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj06.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.142]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD014-86a94c80b80820d; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:55:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dj06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2C194380000B0; Fri, 3 Sep 2010 04:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OrS2X-0007V7-DV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:54:29 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OrS2W-0007Uy-S7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:54:28 +0100 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com ([209.85.214.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OrS2R-00052v-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:54:29 +0100 Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so1577240bwz.16 for ; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:54:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pisGNWI1ipyXHGoaKdKvY74IvjSQy7Rc4Lp+aO5jSS4=; b=jOEis4r2BY2TFH0xv7ywmAL5GzvRHaHV2kw45I/PcX8hkNlJVal0kPzvKKZERFe9mc Hrfa5+4F1xEY2tnwI2UR15w5h6uQBdjSuk22KwmvO7TWEikr2gDDWU3H20dRZc6QOnUf Fi9ffYhgZfU2QQds437XPvZZBV7GufV+PhuLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LkNV+bd4axHATqAXoBFwRBJHxRmR6CNMDnk8nYsnVTxxxVgNaDf7dqZKQW5lSW7DzG giHyQqbRRN7CPqjVN1NPh1fHMZPwpS8qGb/1LwC4rH6w6qqQO6z4MHPi0Q4YUCuWzXK6 34sm19Azp5c7vRFqv8V9e1kMb+uwwMd+rBTrc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.68.144 with SMTP id v16mr318190bki.58.1283504062449; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.136.67 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Sep 2010 01:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:54:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, G6ALB DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 137kHz activity Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34bdbb5c982048f57138a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d293.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d0b4c80b8062014 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636d34bdbb5c982048f57138a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My QRPp 137kHz experiments are now on hold until next week as we've our younger grandson and his mum and dad with us for a few days, so I lose the shack as it doubles as a bedroom. Thank you for your reports thus far to my QRSS3 and WSPR tests. *From the tests this last couple of weeks I'm beginning to think Mal G3KEV was right. * On 137kHz QRP just does not "do the business", unless one is prepared to erect a much beefier antenna, run more power than 5W from the PA, and be very patient with slower QRSS and DFCW modes. My "sphere of influence" would seem to be out to about 75km maximum with the system I currently have. Going up in ERP requires me to look more carefully at higher output PAs, heatsinking, rating of capacitors, thicker antenna wire (more obvious in the air to neighbours). It moves me away from my, self-imposed, QRP ethos in which I wanted to explore the limits of a *truly* simple QRP station on 136kHz. It has been a great learning experience for me though and there are still a few more dBs to squeeze out yet. I'll be on again next week from Monday, probably giving 137.5kHz WSPR a good go, before drawing the tests to a natural close and leaving the band to the big gun stations. 73s Roger G3XBM -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --001636d34bdbb5c982048f57138a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My QRPp 137kHz experiments are now on hold until next week as we've ou= r younger grandson and his mum and dad with us for a few days, so I lose= the shack as it doubles as a bedroom. Thank you for your reports thus far= to my QRSS3 and WSPR tests.

From the tests this last couple of weeks I'm beginning to think= Mal G3KEV was right.

On 137kHz QRP just does not "do the= business", unless one is prepared to erect a much beefier antenna,= run more power than 5W from the PA, and be very patient with slower QRSS= and DFCW modes. My "sphere of influence" would seem to be out= to about 75km maximum with the system I currently have. Going up in ERP= requires me to look more carefully at higher output PAs, heatsinking, rat= ing of capacitors, thicker antenna wire (more obvious in the air to neighb= ours). It moves me away from my, self-imposed, QRP ethos in which I wanted= to explore the limits of a truly simple QRP station on 136kHz. It= has been a great learning experience for me though and there are still a= few more dBs to squeeze out yet.

I'll be on again next week from Monday, probably giving 137.5kHz= WSPR a good go, before drawing the tests to a natural close and leaving= the band to the big gun stations.

73s
Roger G3XBM

-- http://g3xbm= -qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.u= k
h= ttp://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm
G3XBM=A0=A0 GQRP 1678=A0=A0=A0 ISW= L G11088
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