Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mi03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mi03.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.161]) by air-db04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB042-861e4c91ebdf322; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:05:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (unknown [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mi03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 55CB738000094; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OwBJt-0006sF-KW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:03:57 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OwBJj-0006rw-51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:03:47 +0100 Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com ([209.85.216.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OwBJh-00031S-JC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:03:48 +0100 Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so5190215qyk.16 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=arXxoMv5NyKBpP9fV+h7Qps1k2gWG5M4DGo6HS/OUgk=; b=uaapyecEXKwMbn/QQLuF3NZXgxqr+x7+anw1iFv+M9zTUIUXjqM5+30jkL/84SITp6 f19MYlINJDpUkkVkSh2x5bCdXtJachHmNrdI0JouGh9gCgk18jHhnTPySjazfHnsvO2I gJYOwbc7l3KdiBBOHgpU7rZ/+r9frT9g/eoh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ENtzDVIyEWuHiNzMr8wHxcTNYmWLIKaNzQbFHPBAHUYW0cPWyk+wbqmS+2JftuDagp K8nLLph90zdoGxpgAroBXKvOpPQIjCuaYoEbkncl6+BH2lJ4bQzCs/htTgSri8WlBMR9 k9EB9iXmbk51e57hYkUWGKC58/9cPUTYw+g+U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.105.76 with SMTP id s12mr1955297qao.295.1284631419247; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.182.19 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:03:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2C437172E289485D8A4CB26E6C818D32@acer3a92a0889d> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:03:39 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: n2y9OM9Xnrb9UqL_Z73DoE4U7WE Message-ID: From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ae rigger 'job' anyone Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f83a2c6696b8304905d8fc3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m218.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039400cdecb4c91ebdd39ce X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00c09f83a2c6696b8304905d8fc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I failed to mention the goggles whilst drilling & the helmet he wore. Gary. On 16 September 2010 11:01, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Mark & All, > > I recently watched a rigger install a digital TV aerial on next door's > gable end. > > He drilled the lower wall, fitted a large ring & fixed webbing straps to > the bottom of the ladder from the ring. He then attached a fall arrest to > the ladder, the ladder had wide leg supports at the bottom. He then put a > harness on himself, climbed the ladder, attached his fall arrest clamp & his > harness to the top of the ladder & then proceeded to install the aerial. > > Installing the aerial took less time than fitting he safety devices. When > he had finished I asked him about the safety devices, he said that all the > riggers at that firm had to do special training & to enable them to trust > the devices they had to fall off the ladder & let the devices protect them > from the fall. > > And that was just a TV aerial 20 feet up a gable end. > > BTW, he also stated that if the wall was rendered they could not do the job > as they could not be sure about drilling into a brick correctly. > > I was not able to view the video that Graham posted as it had been pulled > on copyright grounds. > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > On 16 September 2010 07:23, Mark wrote: > >> 'Free climbing' has been against the law in for climbing masts and >> towers etc for years in the UK >> Climbers are required to be attached at all times, and fall arrest devices >> with shock adsorbers are commonly used >> Hooking on to a step that is not a closed loop is not going to keep you >> safe if you slip either. >> Climbers are trained regulary to ensure that rescue techniques are >> practiced and that no bad habits are picked up. >> My climbing kit has 2 fall arrest clips and a work position lanyard.. >> Yes, climbing with double lanyards slows you up, so fall arrest >> 'travellers' are used with fixed anchor systesm on the mast allowing to to >> climb the ladder freely whilst still attached. >> These fixed fall arrest systems are found on most masts that I climb >> >> What the guy in the video did was not brave or clever. Just dumb. >> >> Mark >> GM4ISM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Graham >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:31 PM >> *Subject:* LF: Ae rigger 'job' anyone >> >> Ae rigger 'job' anyone ? >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I >> >> >> > --00c09f83a2c6696b8304905d8fc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I failed to mention the goggles whilst drilling & the helmet he wore.<= div>
Gary.



On 16 September 2010 11:01, Gary - G4WGT <= g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>= wrote:
Mark & All,

I rece= ntly watched a rigger install a digital TV aerial on next door's gable= end.

He drilled the lower wall, fitted a large ring &= fixed webbing straps to the bottom of the ladder from the ring. He then= attached a fall arrest to the ladder, the ladder had wide leg supports at= the bottom. He then put a harness on himself, climbed the ladder, attache= d his fall arrest clamp & his harness to the top of the ladder &= then proceeded to install the aerial.

Installing the aerial took less time than fitting he= safety devices. When he had finished I asked him about the safety devices= , he said that all the riggers at that firm had to do special training &am= p; to enable them to trust the devices they had to fall off the ladder &am= p; let the devices protect them from the fall.

And that was just a TV aerial 20 feet up a gable end.<= /div>

BTW, he also stated that if the wall was rendered= they could not do the job as they could not be sure about drilling into= a brick correctly.

I was not able to view the video that Graham posted as= it had been pulled on copyright grounds.

Gary - G4WGT.


On 16 September 2010 07:23, Mark <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
'Free climbing' has been agai= nst the law in for=20 climbing masts and towers etc for years in the UK
Climbers are required to be attached= at all times,=20 and fall arrest devices with shock adsorbers are commonly used
=A0Hooking on to a step that is not= a closed=20 loop is not going to keep you safe if you slip either.
Climbers are trained regulary to ensu= re that rescue=20 techniques are practiced and that no bad habits are picked up.
My climbing kit has 2 fall arrest cli= ps and a work=20 position lanyard..
Yes, climbing with double lanyards sl= ows you up, so=20 fall arrest 'travellers' are used with fixed anchor systesm=A0 on= the mast=20 allowing to to climb the ladder freely whilst still attached.
These fixed fall arrest systems are= found on most=20 masts that I climb
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What the guy in the video did was not= brave or=20 clever. Just dumb.
=A0
Mark
GM4ISM
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 201= 0 8:31=20 PM
Subject: LF: Ae rigger 'job= 9; anyone=20

Ae rigger 'job'=A0 anyone= ?
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