Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.27]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-86334c7e642622; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:33:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mb07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CFD33380001CB; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OqoLj-0003B2-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:31:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OqoLi-0003At-E6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:31:38 +0100 Received: from mail-qy0-f178.google.com ([209.85.216.178]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OqoLc-0000rA-VF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:31:38 +0100 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so2347664qyk.16 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xkPlrTZ54dEDVlekl2jKmlgjUlHwamF9gKndYxgu0zA=; b=TIa7xj/lcfhh3b01E3TYfr5R9hvJ4kb0B1TsNXsJ8DKYET3XdK7f7udaQVHCuaAktU M4kx9CRpSsxFP5OHkpc/s3VN8KcZWcQMni3P/RTzcWEfeWnLAXPav/ZAmkUP2eyZNifl TfEfeFw8eaKNSl4XZ2ohWtip1Ts982bpT9xaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xjUQ4WXrTz6KUjd1yNyYjm+TrrrOQ0erb3RasTLUT6DBlvvgIcP/mEhxTWfSamuHWF Ht/MI4U2yyxjnW8WzHwMfWoYIm9xUhr6slY+pEM6lOfSfoGFXSkdY/JWGsVRJsy8vviJ FCCQHu7F3pUI63su7M29D7tNa3ZXWccngD5zc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.246.141 with SMTP id ly13mr4619287qcb.80.1283351485322; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.238.147 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 07:31:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000a01cb493d$fb8f3410$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4C7E2046.536.2C4F91@v.d.heide.on-line.de> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:31:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VLF THOUGHT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163628405e67a2d1048f338d23 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m257.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601b4c7e64246965 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00163628405e67a2d1048f338d23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rik, Krakatoa exploded with the equivalent force of 200 Megatons of TNT, bigger than the largest Hydrogen bomb and 13,000 times the size of the nuclear explosion that destroyed Hiroshima. That said, I believe that what was hear at a distance was still the low frequency rumble, 100Hz is attenuated at only 0.3dB/km while 10kHz is attenuated over 150dB/km. Best to stick with EM waves as opposed to sound. - 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote: > All, > > here some real "DX":The explosion of the Krakatoa (1883) was heard in Perth > (Australia), 3100 km away, and on the island of Rodrigues, 5000 km away. > > 73, Rik ON7YD > ________________________________________ > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [ > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Klaus von der Heide [ > v.d.heide@on-line.de] > Verzonden: woensdag 1 september 2010 9:43 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: Re: LF: VLF THOUGHT > > Hello All, > > > two years ago someone disturbed my breakfast by a deeply > hammering disco sound. So I took my car to search for > the source. Surprisingly, the sound decreased to nearly > zero when I drove some kilometers in that direction where > the sound seem to come from. The Odyssey took 45 minutes. > But finally I found the open-air disco 20 km from my home > in a lonely wood. > > Indeed, the sound took nearly 60 seconds from there to my > home. That's more than a thunder usually reaches. > > More than thousand square-kilometers where contaminated, > including 23 protected nature resevats. > > Yes we can, but Mankind should not do everything what it can. > > > 73! > > Klaus, DJ5HG > - --00163628405e67a2d1048f338d23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik,

=A0=A0 Krakatoa exploded with the equivalent force= of 200 Megatons of TNT, bigger than the largest Hydrogen bomb and 13,000= times the size of the nuclear explosion that destroyed Hiroshima.
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=A0=A0 That said, I believe that what was hear at a distance was stil= l the low frequency rumble, 100Hz is attenuated at only 0.3dB/km while 10k= Hz is attenuated over 150dB/km.

Best to stick wit= h EM waves as opposed to sound.

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73 Warren K2ORS
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On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Rik Stro= bbe <R= ik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
All,

here some real "DX":The explosion of the Krakatoa (1883) was hea= rd in Perth =A0(Australia), 3100 km away, and on the island of Rodrigues,= 5000 km away.

73, Rik =A0ON7YD
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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Klaus von der Heide [<= a href=3D"mailto:v.d.heide@on-line.de">v.d.heide@on-line.de]
Verzonden: woensdag 1 september 2010 9:43
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: VLF THOUGHT

Hello All,


two years ago someone disturbed my breakfast by a deeply
hammering disco sound. So I took my car to search for
the source. Surprisingly, the sound decreased to nearly
zero when I drove some kilometers in that direction where
the sound seem to come from. The Odyssey took 45 minutes.
But finally I found the open-air disco 20 km from my home
in a lonely wood.

Indeed, the sound took nearly 60 seconds from there to my
home. That's more than a thunder usually reaches.

More than thousand square-kilometers where contaminated,
including 23 protected nature resevats.

Yes we can, but Mankind should not do everything what it can.


73!

Klaus, DJ5HG



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